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  • TYTILIDIE
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    Solution for steering slop?

    Hey guys, last year I had to rebuild a lot of things on my front end. I replaced the stock box and got ZQ8. I still had slop though like many others who have spent hundreds of dollars trying to get rid of it with no luck. I read through tons of posts on this and a few years back John Waller had mentioned something about a plastic white bushing in the end of the steering shaft that goes bad in all S10 trucks and cause the slop. I contacted Waller and he told me he didn't have a Part # and that he got it at the dealer for about $10. Well, ever since then I have been on a mission to find this part. Last year I was told that you had to buy a new column. I try to get this thing about once a month and never have any luck. Three months ago I bought one but it was totally wrong. The guy at the dealer swore up and down that it was the right one. So, yesterday, I finally found a parts guy at a dealer that was actually willing to do some leg work. I also brought my bushing with me. He made call after call after call. He was unsuccessful and it was very close to the end of the day and told me he would have to call GM in the morning. So this Morning I called him to see how he made out and he said that I needed to come in and see and get my part back. So I get there and he shows me that the bushing that came in our trucks are now phased out and there is a replacement that entails a white plastic housing, similar to the original, and a press in metal BEARING. So I take it out to the service guys and they press it in. I paid $60 for it all together and will be taking pics of it with the bags that have the part #'s on them. I will install this today and let everyone know if it ends up working out or not, and if it does, Ill post up the results either way and hopefully we can all have trucks that drive normal once again.

  • i8av8
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    came across this thread and thought i would add to it because i had a little trouble understanding without pics.

    i recently got my ty running again after 2 years and somehow developed steering slop like crazy. truck was just sitting there

    after colapsing steering shaft the very short shaft protruding from firewall has this. this is the side facing engine bay>


    with everything being dirty and a little bit hard to see with the brake booster in the way there is a c-clip that locks the bushing in place. remove the clip and everything should come right out in one piece. with it broken down it will contain these parts. in order from left to right is clip>metal bracket that holds clip>rubber bumper thingy that doesn't do much (it attaches to front side of plastic bushing)>plastic bushing that is part culprit and a rubber seal for the back side of the plastic bushing.


    this is what mine consisted of. hope i am not missing anything. hope this helps some of you who are looking to correct "steering slop".

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  • TYTILIDIE
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    A narrower front tire can help a lot with the tracking. I went to a 245. Also, replacing your idler arm every other month if you daily drive will just be part of your life.

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  • tech9
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    I did jeep shaft, that bearing in column, and still have SOME slop. Not a lot, way better, but still more then there should be. I can't figure out how to make it any better, its the worst of any car/truck i've ever owned.

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  • atkonkler
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    Ordered! Thanks for the info on this thread! Will update on the slop when all done!

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  • whiteTy1214
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    update, just picked up the bearing and adapter bushing for $31.26 my cost after discount.
    They were local just had to pick them up. Hope to have installed soon to see the results.
    I had alot of play up/down and side/side. This is a great thread thanks again

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  • Damian
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    How hard is the steering column to pull apart Dave? Never had to do it before. I've replaced my ignition cylinder on my old GTO before, and that's about the extent of my steering column work. And something tells me they don't sell those plastic pieces alone either. This will probably be my next project after I finish my ball joints.

    FYI, I absolutely hate how GM did the factory ball joints. I picked up a grinder so I can finish the passenger side.

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  • SYO237
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    Figured Id add to this thread some reference pics of the new adapter and bushing. I didnt realize that the stock setup didnt actually have a bearing, but just an adapter. You can see the differences between the orig and new setup (size, rubber ring doesnt get reused). The new adapter has a larger inner diameter than the stocker, which is where the bearing comes into play to hold the shaft in place.

    You have to push the bearing into the new adapter and the bearing does face AWAY from the firewall when installed, which I figured out really quickly when the adapter wouldnt go into the shaft housing the other way.

    I havent had a chance to drive the truck yet, but the wheel does feel tighter than before. Very easy upgrade, took about 15 minutes total.

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  • Damian
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    A stupid request/question, can someone take a picture of the steering box hydraulic lines or tell me which lines go where? Im pretty sure the fittings only go one way but I just want to double check.

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  • Damian
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    I might try and tighten down on the allen screw a hair and see if that helps anything. I dont mind puting money into this truck if it fixes the problem, but Im not getting anywhere with this steering slop. Replacing everything so far and 2 alignment jobs so far and it barely did anything for me.

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  • RealFastV6
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    Sorry to hear that wasn't the fix. I posted somewhere else (I thought it was here but not) the way to find out if you need to do this is just grab the top of your steering shaft and see if it moves (perpendicular to the shaft).

    Seems obvious I guess if you can see that the steering shaft moving into the box and the pitman arm isn't moving in kind that it's the box itself.
    Last edited by RealFastV6; 05-10-2012, 08:11 AM.

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  • Damian
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    Im leaning towards my steering box being bad. Has anyone else got a bad box from AutoZone?

    If I have the engine off, and I turn the steering wheel back and forth, it sounds like there is air in the system, but I look at the fluid, and there isnt any in there. Ive been driving around with this steering box for awhile now and if there was any in there, it should ealily be gone by now.

    If I watch the steering shaft where it connects to the box and turn the steering wheel back and forth, I can see the shaft moving and all, but the wheels dont budge until I go past the slop.

    Anything I should try before I have to pull this thing out again?

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  • Damian
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    I don't know what else to do. I have the same amount of slop as I did with my old steering box.

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  • DanenGraham
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    Don't adjust the box. People have had it lock up while driving after the adjusted them.

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  • Damian
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    I was done in about 10 minutes. It takes longer to take the wheel off and then put it back on. I should have taken pics along the way. Just remember how the retaining ring goes in. The old "bearing" isn't even a bearing, it's just there for a reference than anything else.

    Sadly though, this did not help me. I still have shaft play. I have new everything now and I still have it. I got the ZQ8 steering box and I wonder if I need to adjust it some? It only has about 200 miles on it so far. The steering shaft didn't have much play before the new bearing. The shaft itself moves with the steering wheel but the pitman arm doesn't move, hence the steering slop. Any ideas?

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