so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

[CavScout]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

So if a person pulls out the turbo v-6 and drops in a ls-1 turbo is it just a sonoma then?

*sigh*...
I don't know what you might call it...Syclone SS? TurboNoma? Slap a Formula sticker on it?

But Syclones came with a 4.3, and I don't intend to change that on my truck. Whatever someone else wants to do to theirs is entirely up to them. You posted your view, so did I. Neither of which matters to the person who owns the truck.

 

[TYTILIDIE]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

I wouldn't call myself a purist by any means but IMO, its the 4.3 with Syclone/Typhoon intake, 4.3 and AWD that makes it a SYTY. When I see TT, V8 or RWD SYTY's, I don't get excited. I find it far more impressive to see people going fast with the basics of the truck. By basic I mean the 3 things I mentioned up top. At the end of the day it is definitely up to the owner and I have seen some damn nice set ups other than what I consider to be a SYTY.

 

[MikeRenz]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

if u put a v8 you take the fun of it how do u make a v6 beat a v8 that what fun and vin are important but remember maching number means having everything original

the v8 takes the fun out of it? umm...

there is a little more to life as a syty than being able to beat a v8 with your v6. :lol:

 

[warmpancakes]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

build a serious 4.3 then build a V8 to make the same power, tanke the left over cash from building the v8 and buy another truck (cause for 1/2 the money you can make twice the power)

 

[CavScout]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

Sounds like the guy who was talking his big poop about taking a Camaro SS.

"Nailed his butt to the wall with my Mustang"
"What's in it?"
"A 383 stroker, I had it built by a guy I know."
"What did the other guy have?"
"Oh, his was stock."
"Wow....you showed him who's got more money."

 

[Foot Performance]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

build a serious 4.3 then build a V8 to make the same power, tanke the left over cash from building the v8 and buy another truck (cause for 1/2 the money you can make twice the power)

Plus to me they are more dependable.

I would have a hard time taking on that was complete and converting but If I found a rolling chassis less engine and trans it would be on its way to an ls conversion :tup:

 

[TYTILIDIE]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

LS1's aren't exactly a dime a dozen either. For a decent rebuilt or new motor with 300-400hp, you are looking at 5k. I don't personally see where the savings are? If done right the V6 is fine. I suppose I can see the argument for people in the low 10's and in to the 9's but otherwise I don't get the big deal. And sure we can all say "well what about your crank you snapped in half Mike"? You would certainly have me there however, it would more than likely be a situation where I didn't do it right the first time.

 

[MikeRenz]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

LS1's aren't exactly a dime a dozen either. For a decent rebuilt or new motor with 300-400hp, you are looking at 5k. I don't personally see where the savings are? If done right the V6 is fine. I suppose I can see the argument for people in the low 10's and in to the 9's but otherwise I don't get the big deal. And sure we can all say "well what about your crank you snapped in half Mike"? You would certainly have me there however, it would more than likely be a situation where I didn't do it right the first time.

well its a better balanced motor just since its an 8. The motor in my truck was $1300. I haven't made any impressive passes yet...but it did run a 13.0 with 1 wastegate falling off the truck. :lol:

plus the stock ls1 intake is worlds better than our crappy syty one. there is a reason everyone leans out the same cylinders all the time. I think that the argument above stating that you need the syclone intake is dumb, since it inhibits performance and is a tuning nightmare.

 

[TYTILIDIE]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

Yeah maybe but it sure does look good. Something about the whole thing just makes me smile when I see it. I can't imagine these issues cant be fixed. You could go with the mono blade and carve the upper out for it. But then I know the distribution is off. Call me dumb, I still prefer it. You definitely scored at $1300, but admit that doesn't happen to everyone everyday.

 

[MikeRenz]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

Yeah maybe but it sure does look good. Something about the whole thing just makes me smile when I see it. I can't imagine these issues cant be fixed. You could go with the mono blade and carve the upper out for it. But then I know the distribution is off. Call me dumb, I still prefer it. You definitely scored at $1300, but admit that doesn't happen to everyone everyday.

the motor was bought off ebay. :dunno: if you look on ebay they pretty much are a dime a dozen. It's just a stock ls1, nothing fancy.

I always liked our stock upper also, mostly just becuase it displays what it is. I grew to hate it once i started reading about intake design and air flow though.

 

[TYTILIDIE]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

BAH, its good.

 

[Syclone Rob]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

I am not a purist, and like others have said, any owner can do what they want.. But to me, a syty is a v6, turbo, awd. Simply because a V8 is cheaper and more realiable is great and all, but that just makes it like any other s10 with a v8 (other then the AWD). The V8s I have seen at Nats were awesome and riding in JSM TT v8 typhoon at homecoming was crazy fast (and if I recall correctly wasn't even a ls V8) but something about a V8 don't stick to Syty to me. But I don't mind reading the buildup threads on them though:rotf: :tup:

 

[Foot Performance]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

LS1's aren't exactly a dime a dozen either. For a decent rebuilt or new motor with 300-400hp, you are looking at 5k.

I think most people use"LS" as a term most people build iron 6.0L.

The big HP v6 guys are the one I am talking about using way more money just becuase a v6 bowtie block and crank are not availible and very high priced :2cents:

 

[b00n]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

my :2cents: but the AWD, Turbo, Interior & Cladding makes a SyTy .... nothing more. I think that being a Purist is a good thing on 1 hand but on the other hand you're not a purist when you "upgrade" a turbo here, do forged internals & :blah: :blah: :blah: to "fix" downfalls in a SyTy motor 'cause technically you're changing factory to modified just like a V8 swap.

 

[b00n]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

I say go V8 IF that's what you really want & then Turbo charge it :myclone:

 

[dgoodhue]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

If I want to build a really fast Syclone, I would consider doing the v8 turbo route. I consider it a conversion. fast is still fast. However IMO, the credit as the fastest Syclone still limited to AWD V6 Turbo.

I am not a purist, and like others have said, any owner can do what they want.. But to me, a syty is a v6, turbo, awd. Simply because a V8 is cheaper and more realiable is great and all, but that just makes it like any other s10 with a v8 (other then the AWD).

V8 Ls1 swaps still aren't cheap though. One of my biggest problems with Ls1 conversion is failed ones and the SyTy getting parted out becuase of it. A LS1 is cheaper than a 9 Sec Bowtie Buildup, however if you don't have the money to build up a 10 second Syclone (using stock crank/bloack), in general you don't have the money for a V8 Turbo motor and drivetrain needed to hold together.

 

[TYTILIDIE]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

Couldn't agree with you more Dave.

 

[midnightbluS10]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

I love how when someone mentions swapping in a V8, it almost always turns into a debate about what makes a syty a syty and what everyones opinion on the matter is.


lmao

""Now, a question of etiquette - as I pass, do I give you the ass or the crotch?" --Tyler Durden "

Nice quote! I always ponder that exact thing when I have to walk by someone sitting down at the movies, court, or whatever the situation. I've been wondering what movie it was from, too!

:tup:

 

[Syclone Rob]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

I love how when someone mentions swapping in a V8, it almost always turns into a debate about what makes a syty a syty and what everyones opinion on the matter is.


lmao

And that will never end.......... :rotf:

 

[warmpancakes]

Re: so let me get this straight you can swap an ls1 in these trucks and keep awd?

I goona go way outta bound and either swap a viper motor or later model chrysler hemi