Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

92ChevyS10

Wanting my new motor
I'm kind of new to this but here is the deal:

I have a 92 Chevy S10 with stock 2.8. My friend had me check this site out and get help to build a 4.3L Turbo for my truck that I had mentioned to him. So here is what I am asking:

I would like to buy all brand new parts and build from just a stand-alone block. I want decent, and affordable parts, and nothing that will kill my budget. I work a lot already, but I will pick hours up. I'm not looking to spend a fortune, but enough to make my motor the best possible. Please let me know!!

Thanks!

::92ChevyS10::
 

MRKING

New Parts for Old Trucks
Re: Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

A problemless turbo v6 is not on the cheap side . What are your ultimate goals/plans with this motor ? More power from cheaper parts is more v8 style .
 

92ChevyS10

Wanting my new motor
Re: Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

That is true. But one of my friends put a 4.3L turbo in his truck and he spent 10 grand on it. I want to do about 4-6 grand.
 

MRKING

New Parts for Old Trucks
Re: Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

92ChevyS10 said:
I want to do about 4-6 grand.

What are you going to do about your tranny ? A powerful turbo motor needs a stout transmission behind it .
 

tbauer03

TRBOBOX
Re: Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

Go buy a chevy crate motor save time money and headaches.
 

92ChevyS10

Wanting my new motor
Re: Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

I thought about buying a crate motor, but I have really liked the preformance of the 4.3L Turbo. If not, I can always get like a 350. And about my tranny, I'm getting mine beefed up and rebuilt. Right now, I just need to know any websites or magazines that I can shop for parts for the 4.3L. If I cant find what I want, I'll go and invest in a 327, or 350. :lol:
 

crusader8

Running Ty Club
Re: Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

Look at the bottom of the main page at the vendor links
 

sean

Member
Re: Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

92ChevyS10 said:
I thought about buying a crate motor, but I have really liked the preformance of the 4.3L Turbo. If not, I can always get like a 350. And about my tranny, I'm getting mine beefed up and rebuilt. Right now, I just need to know any websites or magazines that I can shop for parts for the 4.3L. If I cant find what I want, I'll go and invest in a 327, or 350. :lol:
waller performance
raceprovenmotors.com
two venders that i dealt with and got alot of info. i'm doing a tt bowtie build and pontiacs both guys had helped me out. there are alot of guys on here that know what they are talking about and can help you. also if you got money in hand i'm shure you can contact one of the builders and have them do one up for you. wala, crate engine
 

92ChevyS10

Wanting my new motor
Re: Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

are those websites for 4.3L turbo parts or for crate motors? I would like 4.3L first, and if not, then i'm going for the crate motors.
 

92ChevyS10

Wanting my new motor
Re: Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

I checked those websites, and they gave me good info. Anyone have any other info or better ideas?
 

sean

Member
Re: Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

look at the venders marketplace
 

gkrcr882

SyTyless......for now!
Re: Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

One problem associated with using a SyTy engine is cost, mostly because the manifolds are quite rare and are hard to come by. Another such issue is getting a good wiring harness and computer to use, since the SyTy harness has relays for the IC pump as well as other components associated with the Bosch EFI system. The engine and IC system are a pretty complete and compact "package", although it would cost less to go with an aftermarket A2A IC vs finding and using the stock W2A system. Also, good pistons and rods are a requirement, since bad things can happen if detonation occurs at 15 lbs of boost during a WOT run. Be prepared to go through miles of wire and tons of vacuum lines to get things to work, and have a Datamaster handy so the computer can tell you whats going on.

One note of caution: if you find and use a stock SyTy engine, including bottom end, never, ever play with the wastegate adjustment in hopes of cranking up the boost. It will work for a short amount of time, until a rod gets sent through the oil pan.

Good luck!
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92ChevyS10

Wanting my new motor
Re: Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

Alright, thanks. I will keep that all in mind. I still do not know what to do in terms of what I want, willing to pay, and what kind of power I'm looking for. :( But keep the info coming!
 

2kwik4u

Resident slow guy
Re: Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

How much cash do you have?

least expensive = $2k crate 350

medium expensive = $5k for LS1/T56 combo

most expensive = $5k "built" 4.3 with another $2k for turbo and misc associated crap

Turbo 4.3 will make the most torque. Crate engine will be the cheapest/easiest. LS1 is best compromise IMO.
 
Re: Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

I used to be interested in making more power in my S10. I explored a lot of options and this is what I found. From what I have heard the earlier 4.3L S10 and blazer transmission bolts right up to a 350. The transmissions are a little on the weak side after that, but they hold for a fair amount of time. There is unlimited info on swapping a 1992 4.3L S10 to a 350. I think you can get books on the project at just about any auto parts store. I would maybe just get a different S10 with a blown up 4.3L and a good body and go from there. Besides you don’t want the headache of a syclone or typhoon engine. Not to mention trying to make the stupid thing run after a custom install. Just my opinion.

http://www.jagsthatrun.com/Pages/Chevrolet_S-10_V-8.html
 

92ChevyS10

Wanting my new motor
Re: Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

Thanks for the info in an estimate price for the motor and parts. I now have some options to pick from and what not, but I also need to worry about how it will preform. My dad has a 350 in his 69' Camaro that I built (well helped out a lot) and I like its preformance, but I want something mean. I thought about an LS1, but the problem is, is finding websites/catalogs that sell the blocks and parts, or someone with a used one I can rebuild. The problem with finding a used one, is that the previous owner could have F'ed it up, and it wouldnt be worth it. I'm getting ideas from people saying a 350, or 4.3L. 7k is something I could do, but I need to work more. Right now, I really do not know. I went to raceprovenmotors.com, and did an estimate price, and it was 3500-4000 is what it was coming out to be. I'm not worried about building it because my neighbor, and really good friend of my family, is a master mechanic and would be willing to help out. I cna get a brand new block for cheap/nothing through my work. I just need to know if I ahve to go all out preformance parts for the 4.3L or LS1, or what. Keep the info coming!

:92ChevyS10::
 
Re: Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

How about getting a 350 and making a 383 stroker out of it. Thats about as mean as it gets. :boink:
 

2kwik4u

Resident slow guy
Re: Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

Heres a plan, and a good idea of what you'll need. I'm assuming you are putting this into a 2wd S10. The 4wd conversions are a bit easier as that is all a Sy/Ty is anyway....4WD S10 +_ some specific parts.

Engine: I saw two motors go through a reputable machine shop in Cincy in the past year. Both were NEAR or OVER $5k for the machine work, assembly, and parts. Forged pistons and rods, 4xx cam, Vortec heads. Machine shop put togethor everything that moved inside the motor. Intake was converted by JSM for ~$250 for the vortec heads. One has a 67GTQ turbo the other has a PT52 from a GN. You'll need to budget another $1k for the exhaust manifolds, and intake. For the intake you can get some stockers converted purchased and converted, or you can get an edelbrock for the vortec heads, and have that converted to MPI (another $500 depending on who does it). Toss an LS1 Throttle body on there, and you're getting close. With a 2WD you'll need to have a custom downpipe fabricated, so add another $400 in there for that. Oh yea, you'll need to get a Sy/Ty ECM, and fabricate a wiring harness or it. Throw another $500 in there or injectors, connectors, ECM, and misc supplies to make that happen.

Now for things to support this nice motor setup you've just built.

Intercooler...You can go air to air if you want. Custom setup with parts from ebay can be done for $500. Purchase one from RPM that you'll have to slightly rework to make fit on a 2wd chassis for $1k, or have a custom setup fabbed for $1500. Stock Sy/Ty stuff is marginal at best, and is expensive, however it works and can be had for semi-cheap if you wait for the right deals. You can also go hot air, and run just methanol as a cooling agent, however thats a risky proposal for someone who doesn't know EXACTLY what they are doing.

Transmission: T56 is a good option that I haven't seen done on a turbo 4.3. There are a myriad of threads on the various S10 sites about making that work. 700R4 is junk, but will live in a 2wd application (although your tires won't). 4L80E is best, but is somewhat pricey, if you want reliability this is where it's at. The sy/ty conversion is ~$5k, I'd think you could do a 2wd for a bit less...lets say $3,500.

Rear End: If you don't run slicks the 7-5/8" rear end will hold for awhile. If you are gonna run slicks you'll break that in short order. Toss another $750+ for a good 8.5" rear or better. Of course the better you get the more money you are going to have to shell out.

Fuel system: Your gonna need at the very least a new fuel pump and regulator. At best a whole new setup with fuel cell, and various lines/fittings.

As you can see the expenses add up VERY quickly for the Turbo 4.3 option. You'll have enough power and torque to shred tires in no time, and run around about anything on the street assuming you can hook in 2wd. My personal advice is to find a nice LT1/T56 F-body thats been wrecked. Buy it for $3500, and have EVERYTHING you need to make the swap work minus a few S10 specific pats. You'll make plenty of power, and it'll be dead nuts reliable. Theres a guy in Atlanta that moved his Fbody stuff over to an extended cab S10. I've seen him run with a Viper on the highway. Take that same LT1 and stroke it to 383ci like mentioned above, and you'll have a helluva motor for ALOT less money. Not nearly as original, but it'll get you closer to the goal of cheap/fast/reliable!!

Just my $0.02, your milage may vary, no warranties either expressed nor implied.
 

92ChevyS10

Wanting my new motor
Re: Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

Alright thanks! That helps out a lot, and I see the cost just skyrockets, as i figured. Anyways, I will see what I will do, and let you guys know, but I'm still open for suggestions!
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
Re: Building a powerful, effiecient, problemless 4.3L turbo

Its your money and choice, but I will put in my :2cents: The SyTy 4.3 Turbo really isn't a good choice for rookies. Its a finicky motor that has its quirks and in stock form doesn have very stong internals. I obviously don't know your master mechanic friend, but just because he is a master mechanic doesn't mean he is going to the ace SyTy engine mechanic. This forum has most if not all the info you need but you will need to learn to search, As with a Master Mechanic who isn't use to work on SyTy's.
 
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