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Old 12-07-2016, 01:31 AM   #16
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Re: 2000+ spindle/knuckle

I know. I can read. I'm one of the best readers on here.

The two spindles have different caliper mounting ears and arrangements. I don't know his reason for wanting the second gen spindles, he hasn't explained what he's doing. The little bit I know about it, the 2nd gen spindle is better. The caliper mounting ears are further outboard, and further apart. The adapter bracket will be stiffer on the 2nd gen spindle. The adapter bracket will be longer between the spindle ears and the caliper on the 1st gen spindle, making the bracket flex. Flexing mountings give a spongy pedal, and eventually break from metal fatigue.

I've seen 3 SyTy LS brake installations with "Renz" brackets. The outer pad does not fully contact the rotor surface. Something in the brackets or setup is jankey. Not much of an "upgrade" if only 1/2 the pad surfaces are contacting the rotor. Maybe the OP knows about this too. Perhaps he feels the 2nd gen spindle may help avoid the cocked caliper that happens with the 1st gen spindle and renz brackets.
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Old 12-07-2016, 06:26 AM   #17
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Re: 2000+ spindle/knuckle

The 2 reasons for the post was 1. Find the post that stated the reason for using the newer knuckle. I want to say someone at sometime was offering complete front brake packages with the newer knuckles and 2. The oem part # for the knuckles. Thanks
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Old 12-07-2016, 06:53 AM   #18
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2. The oem part # for the knuckles. Thanks
Here are lots of pics from when I switched to 2nd gen parts up front.. I don't see a part # on the knuckles though..


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Old 12-07-2016, 10:18 AM   #19
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Re: 2000+ spindle/knuckle

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The adapter bracket will be longer between the spindle ears and the caliper on the 1st gen spindle, making the bracket flex. Flexing mountings give a spongy pedal, and eventually break from metal fatigue.
incorrect. The 2nd gen spindles caliper mount points still get cut off...and the bracket gets bolted to the bearing bolts.

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I've seen 3 SyTy LS brake installations with "Renz" brackets. The outer pad does not fully contact the rotor surface. Something in the brackets or setup is jankey. Not much of an "upgrade" if only 1/2 the pad surfaces are contacting the rotor.
I've only ever seen this happen if you don't properly shim the caliper so that it centers on the rotor, or if your slide/guide pins aren't lubed and aren't allowing the caliper to properly function.
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btw Dave, sorry i failed to call you back - you'd called trying to purchase a brake kit for a truck you're working on - guessing you no longer want it since you claim it only half works...which is funny since i've had 0 complaints of your apparent findings in the probably 100 kits i've sold over the years. Let me know if you still have any interest in purchasing a kit.

This is a straight forward mod, and
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:34 PM   #20
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incorrect. The 2nd gen spindles caliper mount points still get cut off...and the bracket gets bolted to the bearing bolts.
Ahhh. I stand corrected,

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btw Dave, sorry i failed to call you back - you'd called trying to purchase a brake kit for a truck you're working on
No worries. I was given a pair of LS calipers, and was curious as to what it would take to use them. These are closest to the 13" Baers that DesertSy had that I still miss, and am trying to come up with a similar brake set up for my wht/gry. If Baer still made the kits for the first gen, I may have gone that route, but probably not. I'm too frugal to spend what Baer charges.

I'm pleased with the 2nd gens on my DD which weighs 5,500 lbs, so when I was in a wrecking yard in Reno a few weeks back and they had at least 6 dozen donors, I picked up a complete front set-up for $200 while I was there. Last week I picked up a complete 2nd gen disc brake rear axle.

I like OEM parts, you know that.

I'm not dissin' your set up. Lots of peeps are comfortable with it. I have my own way of doing things.
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Old 12-10-2016, 05:28 PM   #21
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Re: 2000+ spindle/knuckle

Sy1991 I'm in clayton and have this setup you want to-do waiting for installation. I modified the 2 gen knuckles $50 ea offf ebay. Renz brackets and brakelines temken bearings/hub z06 rotors and ctsv front calipers. If you need to look at the knuckles or any of it we can meet up sometime. Like i said its all a pile of parts currently. The knuckle mod is strait forward matter of fact it is exactly the same as if doing ls bracket mod just adjusting clearance for the bracket and calipers.
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Sy1991 I'm in clayton and have this setup you want to-do waiting for installation. I modified the 2 gen knuckles $50 ea offf ebay. Renz brackets and brakelines temken bearings/hub z06 rotors and ctsv front calipers. If you need to look at the knuckles or any of it we can meet up sometime. Like i said its all a pile of parts currently. The knuckle mod is strait forward matter of fact it is exactly the same as if doing ls bracket mod just adjusting clearance for the bracket and calipers.
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Any part numbers yet for the 2nd gen spindle? Thanks in advance.
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Re: 2000+ spindle/knuckle

I'll look at the knuckle asap for #. It's riding in my trunk right now. It's just a 2nd gen 4x4 knuckle. I got em for like 50$ off ebay. A little blasting cutting and powder and they are like new.
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