Ed Hess where are U??

[dgoodhue]

Originally Posted by Nova67ss

Wait untill U hear me speak OHOOOO thats gona be a shock hahahaha

Wait until you hear all of our different accents from around the US

[just a 6]

All the trash talking on 2 different forums 5000 miles apart makes me reach for my and kick back

Only in swedish: http://www.zatzy.com/showthread.php?...2&page=1&pp=20

[phoonTy]

Originally Posted by just a 6

All the trash talking on 2 different forums 5000 miles apart makes me reach for my and kick back

Only in swedish: http://www.zatzy.com/showthread.php?...2&page=1&pp=20

[hijack]

what kind of prices do you get over there on Volvo performance parts? I have a 97 850 GLT (sad low pressure turbo). I'd like to do exhaust and ecm upgrade... but boy is it expensive!

[/hijack]

I can't wait till Nats to see who backs up their smack talk.

[lafinrat]

Originally Posted by MikeRenz

we aren't holding an NHRA event. We have the track rented out to ourselves. Most tracks tend to let you do what you want in these instances.

Sir,

Thanks for the clarification. Hats off to KCIR for circumventing NHRA policy in order to let people have fun. So, who is doing the tech inspections? I will assume not KCIR officials since they are subsidised by the NHRA, and expected to follow the rules while they're getting paid to do so. Also, if the NHRA's rules are not followed at this event, what rules are? Is there special rules written somewhere for special circumstances?

Every time I've rented Bandimere I've been made to follow the rules set forth by their governing body, the NHRA; with no exceptions. I wish I knew about this a long time ago.

Thanks again for the insight

[lafinrat]

Originally Posted by Nova67ss

Ones more Time then,,
Sweden and europe have the same rules as NHRA, the diferense is some of the tags you got sema we got FIA tags the parts are the same, the truck is legal to7,50 in sweden, europe and other country´s and have with help from Jeff been aprovet in US the rearward bars is on dispense because this is a streetlegal truck NOT a RACECAR,,,

the moment Roberts truck no longer passes the inspecktions for street legaly the bars will be on demand..

Rules are rules and You could always ask for a dispence..

Sometimes we over here get confused U seams to hav 2 types of rules?? NHRA and IHRA whats the difference and whos rules are "top dog"?

Ones again and end of story, case closed.

The rearward bars have nothing to do with street legality. Safety and rule compliance would be the concerns.

When you say the truck is legal to 7.50 in the U.S. with the help of Jeff, does that mean that an NHRA tech inspector has looked at the chassis, sonic checked the bars, checked the welds, checked all the angles with the driver in driving position? And installed an NHRA certification tag?

I'm just curious because every truck cage I've built needed the rear bars to cert to 8.50. A truck without those bars requires a Funny Car cage; and for any car to get a 7.50-8.49 tag in the States, as of a couple years ago, requires a Funny Car cage. I couldn't tell in any of the pics if that truck had one or not. But it didn't look like it as it would stick out like a sore thumb on a truck.

I'm still new to all this international stuff; I think its cool for sure.

[TwinTurboV8Ty]

I love this country. Guy builds a fast truck, makes it legal and correct for sweden (who follows our NHRA rules with minimal changes) and he gets called out saying his track isn't official, not to spec, too short, etc.

So then he ships his truck over from Sweden to prove it isn't a fluke and people want to beat up on the cage, etc.

As far as I know nobody here is the official at KCIR or any other track he will run at in US, and Robert hasn't asked for help from anybody else in regards to this matter aside from myself.

So unless your involved WTF difference does it make? Everybody wants to be in each others business sometimes they shouldn't be in.

[TwinTurboV8Ty]

I am sure Safety must be your middle name?

[myclone]

Originally Posted by JS Manufacturing

So unless your involved WTF difference does it make? Everybody wants to be in each others business sometimes they shouldn't be in.

Agreed.

Just let the guy run and if he kicks everyones a$$ so what. The only V6 truck I can think of thats actually made a pass down the track and jumped through all of nhra's hoops is Ed. I never once saw anyone pitch a fit over Pete H, Doc Hoover, or for that matter any low 11 second trucks that didnt even have a cage.

[lafinrat]

I'm certainly not beating up on his cage. I'm just learning about international drag racing and rule compliance. I sure wish the officials around here were as easy going as they are in MO.

I see me questions have been conveniently avoided in lieu of personal attacks against me.

[TwinTurboV8Ty]

I am not personally attacking. Your asking how it mets NHRA specs, NOT swedish specs.

If you want to know about how it is legal in sweden then ask. The way it is posted it doesn't read that way.

The truck is %100 legal to run, race, drive in sweden. Both on the road and off the road. Robert has both standard drivers license as well as his racing licenses. I have copies of it all and can assure you that is true.

Hell the truck is at my house 50ft from me right now. It is built right and safe. We will run it at the US. Some tracks are a PITA, some are not. I have seen people RIDE shotgun on 10 sec. passes teaching the owner how to drive a lenco.

I have seen people run 10's in shorts, 10 with bolt in roll bars not even bolted in, etc.

Is it safe, or correct no. Roberts is 100% legit and safe to his specs. End of story.

Worse case we run 11.51's at KC.

[myclone]

Originally Posted by lafinrat

I see me questions have been conveniently avoided in lieu of personal attacks against me.

Read the last sentence in my post.....seems awfully fishy that you have an issue now unlike 3 or 4 (or more) years ago when there were tons of ppl that were faster than what nhra "officially" allows for their ET.

There are tons of ppl that run at tracks across the US that are NHRA/IHRA tracks who are faster than their tech'ed for and a portion of those ppl have high dollar/rare cars that they wont cut up to put a cage in it.

Im not attacking you personally but I am questioning your motivation. Whats the point a week or two before the nats rather than pose these questions afterwords.

[qbnkiller]

I am going to play devil's advocate here...

What Robert did in sending the truck over is great. He wants a chance at backing up his 8.98 in Sweden by racing some of the fastest here in the US on our turf. That is to be commended. I hope our boys come out and show him a real nice race!

On the other hand, look at trucks like Ed's and John Gerbers.....if they could get away with NOT putting all that time and money into the REQUIRED safety equipment to run on the track, they may not have (although I doubt it...they both seem like intelligent people). Is there anyone else heading there that has to also abide by the rules? What about badnewz? BullySyclone? Anyone else? If I run my truck at any of my local tracks and I run faster than I teched out at, they will politely show me the door. While I did just run a great time, I also didnt play by the rules established to keep me and others around me safe. It comes down to $$$ spent I think.

Now...back to the point of the Nats....if the judges look the other way, then I think everyone out there will have a great time as long as we are all safe.

When this thread was started, I felt (and still do) that it was being used to call out Ed here to Nats to run his truck. He stated in another thread that he would not be taking the truck down to Nats, but if they felt like taking a small detour (1/2 hour), they could race at ATCO, and he would make it (barring knee injury/recouperation). Now at the same time, Tom Ferrick is from the same area, and I am sure he could have been convinced to come out if the race was over there. But it isn't. If we would have started talking about this shit 6-9 months ago regarding the possibility of a heads-up race between Ed, Sweds, Tom, and maybe others, would you (syty people) mind having the Nats over there (PA or NJ)? I know I'd care less. I would go to see the race of the year. And when it was offered for them to run at ATCO, they said no (Swedes). Was it because they for sure would not pass inspection there? I dont know. Whatever the reason, this thread was used to call out a board member, and because he will not come to Nats, a lot of people are jumping in his shit, and I dont think that's cool. Ed has a great many accomplishments that, contrary to some people, he has been an innovator by getting his own hands dirty. Ed has a monster of a truck and we all know it. Mike Lee has a very strong truck also. We are a small enough community that shouldn't get caught up in high-school antics - we are above this.

[lafinrat]

Right now my motive would be to get a straight, legitimate answer about NHRA rule compliance at the SyTy Nats. I know I've been asked to attend similar events and drive because no other drivers with a competency license were available. I've also been turned away from chassis certs for minor details such as: bar intersection less than 1/4" out of spec, seams that are not reinforced to the inspectors standards sans any written policy on the matter, etc.

Regardless of my foolish actions in the pits of a PRIVATELY OWNED track, the NHRA has much more strict policies on rule compliance. I've been told 1st run out of compliance is a verbal reprimand, second will be in writing, third will be barred from the facility and asked to leave immediately. If KCIR does not have to follow such standards (which the opposite has been reiterated to me) then so be it.

My timing is irrelevant in my opinion. I occassionly visit this forum to check things out, saw a bad@@s Syclone and a timeslip, and a question immediately popped into my head.

Take my word that I have since received phone calls from several folks (including the individual some my think I have sided with), and been told to shut up and stop being a pain--which was never my intention.

[MikeMuffins]

Originally Posted by lafinrat

Sir,

Thanks for the clarification. Hats off to KCIR for circumventing NHRA policy in order to let people have fun. So, who is doing the tech inspections? I will assume not KCIR officials since they are subsidised by the NHRA, and expected to follow the rules while they're getting paid to do so. Also, if the NHRA's rules are not followed at this event, what rules are? Is there special rules written somewhere for special circumstances?

I have no idea if KCIR is just going to look the other way during tech for these faster trucks. I assume not. They want to see an accident or someone hurt just a little as we do.

I do know of other middle-of-nowhere tracks that do let things slide though. The closest track to me being a bad offendor of that - The let a convertible corvette w/ no harness no cage, basically no safety equipment....run a loow 10 sec pass - this was without even luanching hard since it woulda been all over the place w/o slicks. A known 7-8sec setup in a streetable car...just becuase they knew the guy let him do it for the crowd. I'm sure the shit happens all the time.

[blk00z28]

And your right Mike it does happen all the time. I go to one of the worst tracks in nation. Orlando Speed World. There have been a BUNCH of times where they let brand new Vipers that are spraying 125-150 shots race more then once. Without a cage. Just a helmet.

Dude, just drop it. How many times does everyone on here have to say it. It passes both UK and US NHRA saftey rules. If you want to ask a question, ask what kind of metal he used, how thick it is, how was it welded, how its welded to the frame, ect. Dont just throw out a "How's it pass safety check like that" Thats stupid and you can see where people will jump down your throat for it.

The guy's paid alot of money to build the truck the way it is. Add that, shippng it from the UK over here to the US. He wants to show everyone that's going to the nat's (sadly I can not go. ) his truck. And try and back up his record setting 8 second run. Lay off the man.