I'm losing interest...

DaveP

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....in working on anything automotive any more because I'm weary of doing things over and over because I can't obtain quality replacement parts from any source, at any price that are worth a shit. Everything is made in China and made of crap.

I went through 2 aftermarket outer axle boots in my DD in 3 years. The originals in it went 20 years and 275K miles before one failed. I changed one after 3-1/2 years, and 6 months later the others side split. What a mess, not to mention its a fussy, DIRTY-azz job.

Today on DesertSy I was fixing an annoying leak at the electrical connector, and had the transmission pan off. This transmission has 8,500 miles and 14 months in service on it since a complete overhaul. When I went to re-install the filter, it fit very loose in the red neck seal. WTF? The seal had shrunk, and wasn't going to adequately seal the pick-up. I looked at the filter, sure enough, Made in China. Junk after 14 months, and now I know the source of the recent occurrence of a 'spongy' 1-2 shift. Air in the pump inlet. I'm fortunate the connecter sprung a leak, and I found the crappy filter seal or I may have been replacing frictions from low line pressure.

Unfortunately, there's no solution to any of this. All we "manufacture" in this Country any longer is the US Dollar and export them, and our inflation, to the rest of the world. I'm thinking of taking up knitting or something. I'm tired of crappy parts.

Happy New Year
 
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Norm

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You better sit down with Mr Jack Daniels and have a good talking to him. Quality in many parts, even the North American ones seems to have gotten worse. Sell more parts = more profit so it seems quality is gone and quantity is the name of the game. It's not only in the automotive field. Look at stuff for a house. Lamps are crap, couches/sofas last 5 years instead of 15. Even a $1.00 toothbrush seems to last a few months. It's all about money.
 

Adam#0213

This truck is awesome!!
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Davep it called corporate greed crap parts for more money!parts coming out of China and Mexico suck but finding USA stuff is really tough anymore.
 

92TyLA

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Yea **** everybody else, USA!!...
 

jeepruby04

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I feel your pain! I do all the work on my vehicles and find myself doing the same repairs time after time. What really bugs me is the idiots behind the parts store counter that have the nerve to say "I bet you're glad you bought the lifetime warranty part". REALLY? I could've saved 10 dollars on the 1 year warranty part because this junk went bad after a month. They never say anything about the time, labor and inconvenience of doing the repair again. I might punch the next guy who says "you should be an expert at changing that by now".
 

Turbotoyz

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Not corporate greed, jeeeesus, it go far beyond that. Yes everything from china ia cheap.
 

Snoman002

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Not corporate greed, jeeeesus, it go far beyond that. Yes everything from china ia cheap.

Yep. Taxes, OSHA, EPA, medical, lawyers, and insurance all make the US not competitive in the world market.

Corporate greed is just a liberal term to justify taxing the rich. Yep, it sure happens, but it doesn't mean that the head of a corporation is a greedy bastard when he makes $2 million a year. It likely just mean he runs a 2 billion dollar a year business.

Steve Jobs didn't force all those folks to buy an iPod or an iPhone...


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DaveP I hear ya. I wish I had a quality store around here, but this place is littered with autozones and O'Rilies. Sadly NAPA is 30 minutes away, and CarQuest 50, the two stores with the highest quality parts as far as I'm concerned. They may not be OEM quality, but far closer than the other stores.
 

jaystcb

Sy 0902, 92Ty 0909
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I blame The EPA and the Clean Air Act. It slowly pushed out manufacturing in the US of harsh chemicals like plastics, rubber and paint. It restricts curtain chemicals to be used in products shipped into the US. Those good old fashioned Cancer and environmental threatening causing materials are what made our products last longer.
 

Beavis

Still plays with trucks
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Globalization, taxes, and NAFTA.........all pushed/allowed companies to outsource...
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
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I am also disappointed as well. I always tried to use OEM parts for all my cas when available unless I knew that I could buy a better quality aftermarket part. The lack of replacement AC delco parts for our trucks is concerning to me.
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
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I blame The EPA and the Clean Air Act. It slowly pushed out manufacturing in the US of harsh chemicals like plastics, rubber and paint. It restricts curtain chemicals to be used in products shipped into the US. Those good old fashioned Cancer and environmental threatening causing materials are what made our products last longer.

Seriously would you want to work in a place like that. I work for industrial sensor company. I do quite a few onsite visits. Many of the plants that I visit I am gladly at I dont have to work at in a daily basis. Their are some industries that my co workers and I practically draw straws because no one wants to go to those type of plants.
 

DaveP

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I never do this. Quote an article in its entirety. Several people have mentioned 'outsourcing' and government regulation. But what about the COST of the government itself? 1 Trillion dollars plus per year is taken from the productive and used to support government workers, politicians, and their staff and for their benefits and pensions. Remember, they produce nothing. They create no wealth. These are just the workers at the federal level. Not state or local, nor any of the other expenditures by government like highways, bridges, etc. Just the workers themselves. ONE TRILLION PLUS....the U.S. government is too damn big and overreaching. This Trillion can't be used to provide jobs here. It can't be used to develop new business and technologies. One of the ways Productive People (business and corporate owners) can attempt to retain some of the rewards for their productivity is to lower their costs by "outsourcing" to other countries.

Anyway, I enjoyed this article. A different view of government. Thinking of these exorbitant salaries and benefits in relationship to what Citizens need from government as "theft".

Taken from The American Thinker.

The Trillion-Plus Heist
By Sylvia Bokor

Government produces nothing. It creates no wealth. Yet the District of Columbia is ranked as the richest area in the nation.

Politicians and bureaucrats shriek that business people are "greedy." But facts show differently. Imagine voting yourself a raise and millions of dollars in allowances. Imagine 5-figure bonuses. Lifetime pensions to which you contribute only 1.3%. Imagine opening 3 or 4 offices around the state for which you pay not a dime.

Politicians and bureaucrats are diseased with avarice -- and complain with self-righteous indignation when CEOs arrive in private jets for a White House meeting.

D.C. is the richest area in the nation not only because an annual salary of $174,000 is paid to congressional members, 261 of whom are millionaires, not only because most of the appointed cabinet secretaries are multimillionaires, but also because federal employees are paid salaries over three times what the average taxpayer earns.

The source of all that money is taxes levied on production.

Business people -- both employers and employees alike -- produce all of the services and products that provide our as well as politicians and bureaucrats' comfort, health, safety and pleasure. Business people create the nation's prosperity. They are the nation's wealth -- and are regulated by those that produce no economic values whatsoever.

What are the total federal salaries business people are forced to pay those that produce nothing? Here is an estimate.

The executive branch is the most profligate. The White House staff numbers 460 bureaucrats. Their annual salaries vary from a few at $42,000 to hundreds between $75,000 and $174,000, and some as high as or over $200,000.

The executive branch includes the cabinet, which consists of 15 departments. The annual salary of each Secretary is $200,700. The number of bureaucrats comprising cabinet staffs range from 15,000 to 240,000. Annual staff salaries average $100,000. Some are higher. For example, the Department of Homeland Security has a staff of 240,000. Of this number 9,525 are "titled" and paid an average of $133,486 annually. Of the remaining 230,475 bureaucrats, the average annual salary is $120,000. Total DHS salaries is $27,657,000,000.

Adding in the Secret Service, chief executive, vice president and White House staff, the total executive branch numbers 6,546,673 employees that are paid an estimated $549,126,870,330.

The legislative branch has 12,835 employees. The total paid in salaries is $1,568,131,700. A 2009 report stated that 2,043 staffers were paid an average of $168,000 The remainder of 5,787 staffers average $100,000 annually. "Assistance" and allowances for Senate and House members comes to $3,682,468,080. The total for the legislative branch is an estimated $5,250,599,780.

For the judicial branch, the total number of employees is 1,324 and $199,418,700 in salaries. The judicial branch includes the Supreme Court (9), the Courts of Appeal (179), district judges (677), international trade (9) and their staffs (450 -- estimated).

As for agencies, although the actual number remains in dispute 491 is used here because that is the number of agencies -- minus cabinet posts and military services -- shown in a government listing. These 491 agencies employ 5,148,867 individuals. Total annual salaries: $569,886,700,000.

These numbers -- of agencies, employees and salaries -- are hugely underestimated. Many federal agencies subsume dozens of agencies and bureaus that are not listed. The National Institutes of Health, for example, consists of 47 separate bureaucracies, the number of their personnel and salaries unstated.

The number of employees and salaries of some agencies is classified, such as the CIA and the NSA. An example is the NSA, which experts estimate employs between 100,000 and 200,000 employees with a budget of "at least $40 billion." This sum is included under agencies with an estimated 150,000 employees averaging an annual salary of $100,000.

Recap:

Executive -- 6,546,673 employees; salaries ..... $ 549,126,870,330.
Legislative -- 12,835 employees; salaries ....... 5,250,599,780.
Judicial -- 1,324 employees; salaries ....... 199,418,700.
Agencies -- 5,298,867 employees; salaries ....... 569,886,700,000.
Total = 11,859,699 employees; salaries .... $ 1,124,463,588,810.

The consequences of these stupefyingly large numbers are far more devastating than can be seen directly. To grasp the extent of that destruction, consider the level of prosperity that employers and employees achieve today despite regulations, taxes, permits, fines, and wasted time on government paperwork.

Because of government confiscation of producers' time and money, gone are the businesses that would have been started with that income. Never to be recouped is the time that would have been spent on innovations, inventions, discoveries and products that would have been made. Never to be retrieved is the prosperity that would have inevitably raised the standard of living, elevated the destitute and eventually wiped out poverty.

The money that politicians and bureaucrats have looted has gone and continues to go into the pockets of the nonproductive. Vying with one another to ingratiate themselves with the most politically influential, politicians and bureaucrats toss around their loot to raise the height of the soapbox before which others rush to kneel. None of that money creates wealth. It stops dead, going no farther.

If the electorate is concerned about the destitute, they should demand radical and permanent deregulation that closes three-quarters of the agencies and cuts federal salaries by 50%. The result would free producers to create more goods and jobs, raising the standard of living for all.

If the electorate is concerned about the unemployed they should recognize that only those with savings can create jobs. If the electorate is concerned about the young or the elderly, the sick, disabled or abused, they should recognize that only the able, the competent, the thoughtful -- in other words, producers -- can alleviate and solve such problems.

Government cannot do it. "The Government" is only a bunch of bureaucrats and politicians that obstruct those who can.

The individual business person's right to life and property is being brazenly violated. Today's politicians and bureaucrats are the self-appointed plutocrats of this nation. And they have forced business people -- employers and employees alike -- to be their feudal serfs by means of how much of their income earners are allowed to keep.

When [ ] some Retrograde (AKA "Progressive") complains about the growing "gap between the rich and the poor" they expect one to understand that the "gap" referred to is between the productive rich and the non-productive poor.

But knowing something about the mammoth amounts of money that bureaucrats and politicians routinely rip off from taxpayers paints a different picture. The actual gap is between the nonproductive rich -- politicians and bureaucrats -- on the one hand and on the other the productive of our nation that are the victims of over a trillion dollar heist.

Sylvia Bokor writes a newsletter for New Mexico residents on state issues, and a National Newsletter, which discusses different political issues from a broader perspective.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/12/the_trillion-plus_heist.html#ixzz2pCLAFDWY
 

gkrcr882

SyTyless......for now!
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:barf: That's terrible. I feel your pain, where I work we only sell off-brand made in China tires (Runway, Autogrip, Black Lion, Sagitar), and almost all of our brake and front end parts are made in China. No wonder they don't fit right and wear out quickly. I love replacing stuff for free while upper management and the shareholders get bonus checks all the time.
 

Baythan

SY2TY2SY2TY
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Business people -- both employers and employees alike -- produce all of the services and products that provide our as well as politicians and bureaucrats' comfort, health, safety and pleasure. Business people create the nation's prosperity. They are the nation's wealth -- and are regulated by those that produce no economic values whatsoever.

^^ This.

The BIGGER the government, the smaller the citizen = loss of innovation, loss of motivation, a society that ends up producing very little.

As mentioned, "greedy corporations" is just a bumper sticker and mindless talking point to evoke emotion is the sheeple. ("Yeah!! F those CEOs and their private planes!" Well, who do you think creates wealth, genius? )

American Thinker, FTW. Thanks for posting, Dave.
 

Turbotoyz

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Thank you
Yep. Taxes, OSHA, EPA, medical, lawyers, and insurance all make the US not competitive in the world market.

Corporate greed is just a liberal term to justify taxing the rich. Yep, it sure happens, but it doesn't mean that the head of a corporation is a greedy bastard when he makes $2 million a year. It likely just mean he runs a 2 billion dollar a year business.

Steve Jobs didn't force all those folks to buy an iPod or an iPhone...


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DaveP I hear ya. I wish I had a quality store around here, but this place is littered with autozones and O'Rilies. Sadly NAPA is 30 minutes away, and CarQuest 50, the two stores with the highest quality parts as far as I'm concerned. They may not be OEM quality, but far closer than the other stores.
 

Jimmy

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Everything is made in China and made of crap.

Pretty much. Makes me feel pretty good building high quality best A/C units in the world out of Chinese metal. :roll:
 

ajt86

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I own a shop and in the past 2 years my comebacks have been getting more frequent... not comebacks as in oh you didnt fix it... as in i replace a tie rod and 10 months later its falling off again. As much as i think americans manufacture some of the highest quality stuff in the world... china has the same abilities to do the same work. Most parts of a GM car are manufactured in mexico, south america, and asia- the quality is there because general motors demands it.

The american consumer wants to cheapest part possible to put in their car. Take a tie rod end for a 2001 impala. The delear wanted 71$. Advance auto priced a moog one at 80$. Advance had their white box brand priced at 16$. Most people figure... well if a national chain sells it it must be good enough and buy the cheapest part. Ill bet the Gm, moog, and whitebox are all made over seas, they just save a few dollars on manufacturing a shittier part, and try to sell large quantities of them to make the money.
 

Jimmy

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I own a shop and in the past 2 years my comebacks have been getting more frequent... not comebacks as in oh you didnt fix it... as in i replace a tie rod and 10 months later its falling off again. As much as i think americans manufacture some of the highest quality stuff in the world... china has the same abilities to do the same work. Most parts of a GM car are manufactured in mexico, south america, and asia- the quality is there because general motors demands it.

The american consumer wants to cheapest part possible to put in their car. Take a tie rod end for a 2001 impala. The delear wanted 71$. Advance auto priced a moog one at 80$. Advance had their white box brand priced at 16$. Most people figure... well if a national chain sells it it must be good enough and buy the cheapest part. Ill bet the Gm, moog, and whitebox are all made over seas, they just save a few dollars on manufacturing a shittier part, and try to sell large quantities of them to make the money.
Get all your shit from NAPA. They got good stuff. Advance/Oriellys/pepbots is junk.
 

ajt86

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Get all your shit from NAPA. They got good stuff. Advance/Oriellys/pepbots is junk.

Napa has been slowly getting worse and worse. Im not that old but i remember when i was a kid my dad went to napa for everything.... even a bearing for a blower motor for our home heater... went in with the bearing... guy got a calliper out and measured it and grabbed him one. Although napas are marginally better than advance and autozone... the 2 closest napas to me have closed in the past few years.

Pricing also makes no sense... did new callipers and hoses on a wrangler this weekend... advance hit us for 26$ per brake hose... but only 12$ per calliper... made no sense
 
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