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91syclone832

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i am repainting my truck the right way that means taking the bed off and im conteplating how hard it would be to take the body off and coat the chassis with and put all new bushings.... i am going to resell the truck after i am done and if it sells then im going to buy another and do the same exact thing and make this a habit:tup:
 
Norm

Norm

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How bad is it? For the amount of work your going to do , how much extra value do you think it will ad to the truck? Nothing wrong with painting it and changing out the bushings, but if your just going to turn around and sell it, that's alof of work that you might not get back the money for effort.
 
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91syclone832

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quadrajet i just wanna rhino coat the chassis put new bushings on chasis suspension and change the fluids and clean evrything up i already have new shocks fiberglass leafs good ... and then paint the body off the truck and assemble i have cash. how much do you think it would cost ruffly without paint i can do all the labor myself i wanna know what im getting into
 
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vmack

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sounds like a good idea,but I don't think after all the labor u will turn much of a profit if any at all.
good luck with the truck
 
SEL777

SEL777

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If you wanna go the frame up route....then, why sell it when you're done to just do it again?
 
BoostedSUV

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Hope you bought it incredibly cheap because the time and money you're looking at spending to do what your talking about doing is in the thousands... Sounds like a waste of time to try and sell it to make a profit.
 
DaveP

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91syclone832 said:
how much do you think it would cost ruffly without paint i can do all the labor myself i wanna know what im getting into
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OK, please forgive me. You called me out by name, and I'm pretty well-know here for saying it like it is, so here goes..... I'm going to seem like a hard ass, but I've seen this so many times before on here, what is going to happen is very predictable. You're going to take this thing all apart, spend a lot of money, it will never run under your ownership, and will be sold in boxes about a year from now.

First off you have no idea what you're getting into. I can see that by your "where do these wiring connectors go" thread. And now there are a few additional threads with questions that only a beginner, and n00b to SyTy ask. Sure, you can provide "all the labor myself", but only if you know what is required, and how to do it.

Here's what I would suggest.

  • Do what it takes to get it running.
  • Do what it takes to make it drivable.
  • Do what it takes to make it smog-legal.
  • Register it and insure it.
  • Begin driving it. Enjoy it.
  • As little things (heater core, power window motors, electrical gremlins, suspension issues, oil leaks, engine and transmission failures and rebuilds, t-case mysteries, ABS failures and the subsequent crash-repairs, etc, etc,etc) crop up from time to time (about every time you drive it, it seems) take care of them so as to keep it running and off the jack stands. Keep enjoying it. :D
  • Purchase DataMaster software, and an ALDL cable and begin logging and learning how your engine functions and how the ECM and sensors control fueling, boost, timing. This could take the rest of your life to master, but it needs to be learned.

ONLY after the above steps, in the order listed which could take years to complete, will you be ready to decide the direction to take with your Syclone. Sell it, build it, paint it, rhino coat the frame, etc.

Only until you've owned one long enough to learn what it takes to get one running, and drive it for awhile, and develop some diagnostic skills regarding driveability and tuning, will you be ready to evaluate whether you're ready to undertake "restorations for profit".

Hope this helps. I know it's "tough love", but that's the way it is with these trucks. Ask a few people that have experience with these. And those that didn't but tried to jump in the deep end without knowing how to swim, what happened to them....

Good luck.
DaveP
 
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91syclone832

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Why resell to make some money people like nice things and like getting what they pay for... Well since evryone is saying its not worth it.... What would you guys pay for a fresh paint frame off restored syclone and a rebuilt motor with forged pistons? All new straight out the body shop????
 
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91syclone832 said:
Why resell to make some money people like nice things and like getting what they pay for... Well since evryone is saying its not worth it.... What would you guys pay for a fresh paint frame off restored syclone and a rebuilt motor with forged pistons? All new straight out the body shop????
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a painted frame doesn't add anything to the value in my eyes.

rebuilt motor is a risk unless it is documented and has some miles on it.

straight body out of the shop, what if i wanted it to be a different color?

Syty's aren't exactly money makers.
 
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91syclone832

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Yes dave i am gonna get her running first, register,insure get her running decent then take the motor out and rebuild it with forged pistons evrything else stock even turbo and paint the truck while the engine is out im still deciding on the frame so bare with me as far as it never running under my ownership hahahaha well see about that i got the time and money and two brothers that build real cars so i think i got this
 
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91syclone832

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Big smoosh you are ridiculous diffrent color in a sy your crazy rebuilt motor forged pistons no good? Like a 60k mile stocker is way better right?
 
QuinnSY

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Its strange, you almost never see a SYTY sell for over 10,000 and if it does it usually has less that 20,000 miles and completely original, a rare color, or a highly respected truck on here meaning it runs 10's or is the HPT truck. Most everyone on the board wont pick up a syty for anything over 6-7K we all seem to hunt for bargains even if it takes 5 grand more and many days of labor to get it in good condition. From what Ive seen its best to spend 10K for one already done over 5K for a project as tempting as the project may be. I'm going down the path right now that you want to go down, but I'm not going to sell it for a while, so it will be worth it, but I could have got a truck already done for half the amount of $$ I'm putting into mine and it would be working right now and someone else would have taken the financial loss.

Get it working and see how you like the truck first, it sounds like it is almost there!
 
DaveP

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91syclone832 said:
. What would you guys pay for a fresh paint frame off restored syclone and a rebuilt motor with forged pistons? All new straight out the body shop????
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I wouldn't pay anything for it, because I already have one. I won't go into what's "in it", but the guy that builds it is just as important as what the content is when it comes to evaluating "value". Anyone can put lipstick on a pig.

I'm intimately familiar with the qualifications of the guy that built mine. ASE Master for 30 years, been building 5-10 engines a year professionally (that means making money at it) for 40 years, an absolute wizard with electrical, and an uncompromising attention to detail. The dude's built and owned 5 Syclones and Typhoons over the past 16 years. He knows what he was doing, and it shows in the result. Spending $~25,000 probably helped too.

There's more to it than meets the eye. Literally. Especially with special interest vehicles like SyTy's
 
QuinnSY

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91syclone832 said:
Big smoosh you are ridiculous diffrent color in a sy your crazy rebuilt motor forged pistons no good? Like a 60k mile stocker is way better right?
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Stock unopened engines typically run flawless, and the rebuilt or modded ones have failed on a lot of people. If I were to buy another I would get a stock one so I don't have to chase down issues every week.
 
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91syclone832

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At quin thanks for the advice it makes sense ,, the only reason people dont buy a truck for over ten k is cause there all beat up and people want top doller. Ya my truck has 120k miles but its gonna be the cleanest truck possiblly in the south bay and ya im gonna want over ten k but thats cause it gonna look and run like a new truck and im going to have documentation on evrything with pics of process.
 
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