Hey guys, I was wondering whats up with Sy's and Ty's towing stuff? I've seen a couple Sy's AND a couple Ty's with tow hitch receivers hidden behind a spring hinged license plate. Whats up with that? I thought thats Sy's and Ty's couldnt tow. Car and Driver review said no towing either. http://sportmachines.com/magrack/car_driver_3-92.html Any Thoughts? Do they have to do some supsension mods or something?
Whats up with towing
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91blazins10
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Re: Whats up with towing
I think they mostly towed small things like jetskis, anything bigger than that and you will prob run into some issues.
I think they mostly towed small things like jetskis, anything bigger than that and you will prob run into some issues.
phoonTy
Truckless. For now.
Re: Whats up with towing
do a search for a member here - TowingTyphoon - i believe. He tows a big boat with his Ty. There was a thread he posted on everything he did to beef up the suspension, etc.
Haven't seen him post in a long time, but I'm sure the thread is still there if you dig deep enough. :tup:
do a search for a member here - TowingTyphoon - i believe. He tows a big boat with his Ty. There was a thread he posted on everything he did to beef up the suspension, etc.
Haven't seen him post in a long time, but I'm sure the thread is still there if you dig deep enough. :tup:
jwaller
Evil Genius/SyTy Guru
Re: Whats up with towing
the single biggest thing you need to worry about is the stock IC system. it is designed to handle ~13 sec of WOT and then a cool off period and then 13 sec again.
so if you go blasting up a long hill at 15psi you will run out of cold water in the ic and the motor will detonate and tear itself apart.
upgrade the rear springs and the IC or at least monitor the MAT temps and your golden.
the single biggest thing you need to worry about is the stock IC system. it is designed to handle ~13 sec of WOT and then a cool off period and then 13 sec again.
so if you go blasting up a long hill at 15psi you will run out of cold water in the ic and the motor will detonate and tear itself apart.
upgrade the rear springs and the IC or at least monitor the MAT temps and your golden.
SBNova
New member
Re: Whats up with towing
I tow a small 4' x 4' Harbor Freight trailer behind my Ty. It's the only way I can get my sons racing go kart to the track. The trailer weighs 180 lbs empty, and its got about 100lbs of stuff on it plus the kart- which weighs 260 with my son in it. I *should* be well below 500 lbs total. Even with the light load I can feel it back there. I try to stay out of boost when towing, and sometimes its hard to accelerate slow enough to keep the boost gauge from registering.
I tow a small 4' x 4' Harbor Freight trailer behind my Ty. It's the only way I can get my sons racing go kart to the track. The trailer weighs 180 lbs empty, and its got about 100lbs of stuff on it plus the kart- which weighs 260 with my son in it. I *should* be well below 500 lbs total. Even with the light load I can feel it back there. I try to stay out of boost when towing, and sometimes its hard to accelerate slow enough to keep the boost gauge from registering.
Re: Whats up with towing
Yep. What they said.
Get a good IC system (a good front mount with a scoop is ideal for this situation). A good transmission (4L80E would have no problems IMO). Add some better rear suspension (Helper bag systems are cheap and work great). And use a Weight Distributing Hitch system.
With those 4 systems upgraded, you'll be OK (not great, but OK) to tow some decent loads. I'd say 4,500lbs would be tops with the above listed upgrades. The chassis, and overall size of the truck doesn't lend itself to much more than that safely IMO.
Without those mods, I'd stick to 1,000lbs or less on the trailer. No worse than 4 healthy guys in the truck at that level!
Yep. What they said.
Get a good IC system (a good front mount with a scoop is ideal for this situation). A good transmission (4L80E would have no problems IMO). Add some better rear suspension (Helper bag systems are cheap and work great). And use a Weight Distributing Hitch system.
With those 4 systems upgraded, you'll be OK (not great, but OK) to tow some decent loads. I'd say 4,500lbs would be tops with the above listed upgrades. The chassis, and overall size of the truck doesn't lend itself to much more than that safely IMO.
Without those mods, I'd stick to 1,000lbs or less on the trailer. No worse than 4 healthy guys in the truck at that level!
Driven_out
Sonoma Driver
Re: Whats up with towing
the trans is a 700R4 right? i dont know if they're weaker than a normal one like in my truck though
the trans is a 700R4 right? i dont know if they're weaker than a normal one like in my truck though
dgoodhue
BuSTeD 4.3
Re: Whats up with towing
The problem is the torque of the motor. The extra weight adds additional load which also help build boost quicker. 420-440 ft-lbs torque plus the extra towing weight is going to put alot of stress on the transmission. The transmission already barely holds up to the torque when racing.
Driven_out said:
The problem is the torque of the motor. The extra weight adds additional load which also help build boost quicker. 420-440 ft-lbs torque plus the extra towing weight is going to put alot of stress on the transmission. The transmission already barely holds up to the torque when racing.
Driven_out
Sonoma Driver
Re: Whats up with towing
Ah yes, forgot about that, yeah.
dgoodhue said:
Ah yes, forgot about that, yeah.