2 step experience
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ed hess
race or get outta the way
Re: 2 step experience
I think it does
if your going to launch at something that low dont bother with a 2 step
let me rephrase that, Why would you want to leave with so little... would you even have boost at that rpm unless your trying to leave at a high rpm without boost?
the more you can leave with without spinnig the better your going to et.
not sure about your 2800 stall tc because that rating is probably a stall rating for naturally aspirated and lighter weight. example my old 2600 stall tci circle track tc we used to push to well over 4000 on the 2step. keep in mind that the more power you put to a xxxx rated converter the higher the stall will be. then when it leaves it will flash higher.
ed
sy445 said:
I think it does
if your going to launch at something that low dont bother with a 2 step
let me rephrase that, Why would you want to leave with so little... would you even have boost at that rpm unless your trying to leave at a high rpm without boost?
the more you can leave with without spinnig the better your going to et.
not sure about your 2800 stall tc because that rating is probably a stall rating for naturally aspirated and lighter weight. example my old 2600 stall tci circle track tc we used to push to well over 4000 on the 2step. keep in mind that the more power you put to a xxxx rated converter the higher the stall will be. then when it leaves it will flash higher.
ed
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dgoodhue
BuSTeD 4.3
Re: 2 step experience
The brake pedal is too slow to return to use as a trigger. I use a wired push buton switch in my center console that I can hold on the steering wheel and my brake pedal to disable that switch (its disabled when my brake pedal is up, I had a few unwanted launch activations)
MSD sells an adjustable 1000-3000 rpm pill for the 6AL.
The brake pedal is too slow to return to use as a trigger. I use a wired push buton switch in my center console that I can hold on the steering wheel and my brake pedal to disable that switch (its disabled when my brake pedal is up, I had a few unwanted launch activations)
MSD sells an adjustable 1000-3000 rpm pill for the 6AL.
It's just a six
Super Member
Re: 2 step experience
Can you get a pill that is below 3000 RPM?
Good job Dave,@ least you do not try & make fun of people that has questions. :tup:
That is the answer I was looking for.dgoodhue said:
Can you get a pill that is below 3000 RPM?
Good job Dave,@ least you do not try & make fun of people that has questions. :tup:
It's just a six
Super Member
Re: 2 step experience
Is it the idea of a two step,(one part) so you do not need to concentrate on how much throttle you are giving before you launch?
I was thinking I would want one for consistancy of launching & I have a 2100 stall converter & I have to modulate my throttle so I do not boost too much.
Bad idea huh????
ed hess said:
Is it the idea of a two step,(one part) so you do not need to concentrate on how much throttle you are giving before you launch?
I was thinking I would want one for consistancy of launching & I have a 2100 stall converter & I have to modulate my throttle so I do not boost too much.
Bad idea huh????
dgoodhue
BuSTeD 4.3
Re: 2 step experience
I did mine, for two main reasons
-I already had the 6AL for my Corvette
-I wanted something that wasn't so time consuming at the line.
Consitency would would be an added bonus. I tried it briefly with the stock Turbo & stall converter and it didn't build boost @ 2200-2300 rpm, however I realized later that I forgot to cut the jumper to make it into a V6 firing order. It was cutting out at V8 cylinder intervals and popped quite a bit, so that may have had something to do with it.
It's just a six said:
I did mine, for two main reasons
-I already had the 6AL for my Corvette
-I wanted something that wasn't so time consuming at the line.
Consitency would would be an added bonus. I tried it briefly with the stock Turbo & stall converter and it didn't build boost @ 2200-2300 rpm, however I realized later that I forgot to cut the jumper to make it into a V6 firing order. It was cutting out at V8 cylinder intervals and popped quite a bit, so that may have had something to do with it.
cloneman315
Active member
Re: 2 step experience
for a 6al u can get a red pill u can adjust
for a 6al u can get a red pill u can adjust
cloneman315
Active member
Re: 2 step experience
also i was told that it is easier on the trans
also i was told that it is easier on the trans
cloneman315
Active member
Re: 2 step experience
but like the other guys said the pills are a big pita
but like the other guys said the pills are a big pita
Re: 2 step experience
I have a pte67 bb turbo w a supposed 2800 stall. The truck will make probably 10-12 lbs of boost before 3000 rpm. It also starts spinning the tires and driving through the brakes before 3000 rpm. This is why im looking for something below 3000rpm
ed hess said:
I have a pte67 bb turbo w a supposed 2800 stall. The truck will make probably 10-12 lbs of boost before 3000 rpm. It also starts spinning the tires and driving through the brakes before 3000 rpm. This is why im looking for something below 3000rpm
syclone1100
RUNNIN AND SELLIN
Re: 2 step experience
I see and hang out with a lot of guys with 2 steps... A bunch of evos who have it flashed on thier ecm and a SRT-4 guy who bought a traction controle box with it programed into it, I worry about the tranny blowing up while using it.. Is it harder on the trans????
I see and hang out with a lot of guys with 2 steps... A bunch of evos who have it flashed on thier ecm and a SRT-4 guy who bought a traction controle box with it programed into it, I worry about the tranny blowing up while using it.. Is it harder on the trans????
ed hess
race or get outta the way
Re: 2 step experience
trying to leave at 10psi footbraking without a 2 step is going to be a hit or miss event and a nightmare to get consistant.
with a 2step your right foot is against the firewall. boost & rpmwill allways be the same provided your 2 step switch is also setting your boost controller to launch mode.
If your trying to set this kind of thing up without interfacing to a boost controller and linelock setup or transbrake then your missing most of the benefit of consistancy and dialing in your launch (60ft).
blk00z28 said:
trying to leave at 10psi footbraking without a 2 step is going to be a hit or miss event and a nightmare to get consistant.
with a 2step your right foot is against the firewall. boost & rpmwill allways be the same provided your 2 step switch is also setting your boost controller to launch mode.
If your trying to set this kind of thing up without interfacing to a boost controller and linelock setup or transbrake then your missing most of the benefit of consistancy and dialing in your launch (60ft).
dgoodhue
BuSTeD 4.3
Re: 2 step experience
Technically 10 psi on the foot brake is going to different than 10 psi on 2 step. Say for instance your truck stalls 3000rpm at 10psi. With a 2 step your RPM might be at 2800rpm, but its going to be a lower RPM than on the 2 step. The one advantage to the 2 step is that it doesn't heat up the transmission like brake torque a motor up against the stall converter does.
blk00z28 said:
Technically 10 psi on the foot brake is going to different than 10 psi on 2 step. Say for instance your truck stalls 3000rpm at 10psi. With a 2 step your RPM might be at 2800rpm, but its going to be a lower RPM than on the 2 step. The one advantage to the 2 step is that it doesn't heat up the transmission like brake torque a motor up against the stall converter does.
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midnightbluS10
Banned
Re: 2 step experience
The one advantage to the 2 step is that it doesn't heat up the transmission like brake torque a motor up against the stall converter does.
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dgoodhue said:
The one advantage to the 2 step is that it doesn't heat up the transmission like brake torque a motor up against the stall converter does.
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ed hess
race or get outta the way
Re: 2 step experience
you guys have absolutley no idea on this. (or it depends on how you use it) lol
I was pushing my old tci 2600 stall to 4500rpm on the 2 step with the brake presure gauges reading off the 2000psi scale while using the ft and rear linlock setup and 3 trans coolers with fans working their collective asses off to keep trany temps under the 240 mark.
We beat the livin piss outta this and it never hurt it one bit.
BUT,... couldnt have done it without the 2-step
midnightbluS10 said:
you guys have absolutley no idea on this. (or it depends on how you use it) lol
I was pushing my old tci 2600 stall to 4500rpm on the 2 step with the brake presure gauges reading off the 2000psi scale while using the ft and rear linlock setup and 3 trans coolers with fans working their collective asses off to keep trany temps under the 240 mark.
We beat the livin piss outta this and it never hurt it one bit.
BUT,... couldnt have done it without the 2-step
James Thomas
"NO CLASS"
Re: 2 step experience
Uhh...... I think what Ed is trying to say is that the converter is still loaded (or should I say over loaded?) and the heat is still gonna be there (maybe more of it depending on build / H.P.) but the 2 step will allow you to do things above and beyond the rated stall (with proper cooling!).
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James
Uhh...... I think what Ed is trying to say is that the converter is still loaded (or should I say over loaded?) and the heat is still gonna be there (maybe more of it depending on build / H.P.) but the 2 step will allow you to do things above and beyond the rated stall (with proper cooling!).
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James