92 Typhoon died at light.........

[Bichn69]

I was stoped at a light last night and it died. I was able to turn it over once and then after that just a click. Not just a bad starter click this sounded more like a clunk and the engine would not turn over. I got it home and checked the battery and it was still fully charged. Then I checked to see if I could manually turn the engine over and I could. Then I replaced the starter just in case. Still not able to start the vehicle. I tried to start it in neutral and park and nothing but that loud clunk.

A little history on the previous problems with it was the starter solinoid was going bad but other than that nothing leading up to this. Any ideas on what I should check next? or what the problem could be?

Thanks in advance
Phil

 

[TYRODD]

Re: 92 Typhoon died at light.........

Try the Ignition module...sounds like a familiar problem :tup:

Or the "purple" starter solenoid wire may be burnt up.

 

[SeattleSy#1255]

Re: 92 Typhoon died at light.........

I agree with Rodney...purple wire is melted to hell.

May also be possible that your chip unseated itself in the ECM...happens sometimes if it was hanging down from under the dash.

Alternator may be toast?

Plug wire(s) not fully pressed on.

Dead fuel pump.

.........just throwing out ideas.

 

[MikeRenz]

Re: 92 Typhoon died at light.........

the purple wire melting wouldn't cuase the truck to die.

 

[Bichn69]

Re: 92 Typhoon died at light.........

Ok I had my starter tested, my battery tested, installed a new ignition switch, cleaned my battery cables and checked the ground on the battery cables. any other ideas on why my brick won't turn over? I was thinking maybe the ignition module might be fried. Would it cause this problem? Can anyone tell me were it's located?

 

[SeattleSy#1255]

Re: 92 Typhoon died at light.........

well, Renz says it won't kill the truck which is true, but it is a common reason they don't start....did you check the purple wire.

what about the other things mentioned?

 

[MikeRenz]

Re: 92 Typhoon died at light.........

i wonder if your rotor popped off, or something simple like that. Have you checked your ecm fuses

 

[AUSyTyIN]

Re: 92 Typhoon died at light.........

i wonder if your rotor popped off, or something simple like that. Have you checked your ecm fuses

A rotor popping off wouldn't cause the motor to not turn over. Wouldn't be the alternator either. Check for trouble codes?

Check the belts on the front of the motor? Sounds wierd, but I've seen dumber things happen. Can you crank the motor over with a socket on the crank pulley bolt?

 

[MikeRenz]

Re: 92 Typhoon died at light.........

i thought by "won't turn over" he just meant "won't start". I didn't read carefully enough i guess. :lol:

If you are just hearing a loud clunk i would think thats your starter smacking the flexplate. Have you tried starting it w/ the flexplate cover off, so can see if the starter is engaging/motor is spinning at all?

 

[Bichn69]

Re: 92 Typhoon died at light.........

SeattleSy - I looked at the purple wire as far up as I could see and it looks ok. I can hear the fuel pump. I can check the plug wires and the alt but it seems that if it was one of those three things it would at least be turning over. Do you think i should still check these things?

Renz - I have removed the flexplate and watched the starter engage but it won't crank it over. I have not checked the ecm fuses I will tonight

16sy16 - I checked for trouble codes and nothing. I put a socket on the alt pulley and did crank over the engine manually I will check the belts tonight

I will repost tonight after I check these things and a few others.

Thanks guys for your responses

 

[bezerk]

Re: 92 Typhoon died at light.........

is your Flexplate (flywheel) still good? if you unbolt the starter, does the starter actually work? seems to be that your starter is locking uo, and your truck dying could be that the starter solenoid got toast, and actually engaged itself when the truck was running?
or that the truck just died cause of another failure, and you are looking at 2 (small) problems?

 

[Bichn69]

Re: 92 Typhoon died at light.........

Bezerk - I unbolted the starter and and it worked then I took it to get tested also and it checked out ok.

 

[bezerk]

Re: 92 Typhoon died at light.........

Bezerk - I unbolted the starter and and it worked then I took it to get tested also and it checked out ok.

is your flexplate still good?
you should be able to turn the engine over by just rotating the flexplate by hand. tried that?

 

[MikeRenz]

Re: 92 Typhoon died at light.........

when they tested the starter, did they test it against a load, as if it was trying to start a car. Or did they just hit it w/ 12v to see of it would spin on its own.

 

[bezerk]

Re: 92 Typhoon died at light.........

when they tested the starter, did they test it against a load, as if it was trying to start a car. Or did they just hit it w/ 12v to see of it would spin on its own.

what he said

 

[Bichn69]

Re: 92 Typhoon died at light.........

Bezerk - I have not tried to turn the flexplate by hand. I will try that tonight

Renz - They just took it and put it in a clamp and hooked wires up to all the terminals and wound it up on it's own. I did install a new starter and tried that and it didn't work either.

 

[MikeRenz]

Re: 92 Typhoon died at light.........

i would unbolt the flexplate from the torque convertor. Spin the flexplate/motor by hand....and spin the torque convertor/tranny by hand. If its not the starter, something could be seized somewhere.

 

[supersports10]

Re: 92 Typhoon died at light.........

i would unbolt the flexplate from the torque convertor. Spin the flexplate/motor by hand....and spin the torque convertor/tranny by hand. If its not the starter, something could be seized somewhere.

x 2 but make sure to go a full revolution on both.

SS:tup:

 

[AUSyTyIN]

Re: 92 Typhoon died at light.........

At least it isn't the motor :tup: Could be the torque converted locked. Do you have a TCC lockup switch?

 

[Bichn69]

Re: 92 Typhoon died at light.........

Ok guys it's fixed and running like a gem.... When I went out tonight I unbolted the flexplate from the torque converter. Started to turn the flexplate and it didn't turn very easy at all and then It seemed to lock up. Today I talked to a mechanic and he told me to take off the Serp. belt and make sure no pulleys were locked up. So I took off the serp. belt and tried to start it up and it started. Then I checked all the pulleys and the alt pulley was bad. Of all fricken things. Thanks to everybody that helped me troubleshoot this problem without your help and the mechanic up here I'd still be out there pullin my hair out.

Thanks