bad idle until I unplug the 3 bar map

Trapper

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Hey I noticed today my ty idleing bad I was going to swap out my exhast but when I unpluged the 3 bar map sencor it idled up fine, could this be a bad 3bar map sencor? any takers?
 

Luke

Fish sticks SUCK !!!
Re: bad idle until I unplug the 3 bar map

do you have the requirements to run a 3-bar? (chip, $59...)
 

Luke

Fish sticks SUCK !!!
Re: bad idle until I unplug the 3 bar map

what does the datalog look like?
 

Trapper

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Re: bad idle until I unplug the 3 bar map

I'm going to put my other exhaust on and hook up the data master this weekend, The vacuume lines look brand new.
 

Trapper

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Re: bad idle until I unplug the 3 bar map

Ok tried to hook up my Ty to my PC with the Data master I have and no dice I messed with the settings and still no reading, and still idles like crap with the map plugged in any Ideas, I have done a search but noting found for my problem
 

cloneman315

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Re: bad idle until I unplug the 3 bar map

put a wbo2 on it see what it says,i bet its going to say its lean, these trucks like a bit of a rich idle.So they dont wander ,surge etc
 

Trapper

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Re: bad idle until I unplug the 3 bar map

I have one what should it say? How high should my WBO2 say? It smells rich to me.
 
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Trapper

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Re: bad idle until I unplug the 3 bar map

ok maybe mine is low I recall an 8.7 something Im going to check the resitance of my temp sencor. But when I disconect the map the idle goes up but I don't think its the map yet.
 

Trapper

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Re: bad idle until I unplug the 3 bar map

Its pretty rich and I think my coolent sencor is out of rand the motor seems warmer to the touch than what my resitace chart is telling me I will double check tomorrow after it cools for the day.
 

cloneman315

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Re: bad idle until I unplug the 3 bar map

coolant sensor is common gm problem and would make it run rich ,look at the scan tool and see if it says some odd numbr like-30 or something
 

Trapper

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Re: bad idle until I unplug the 3 bar map

I think I have a place I can borrow a scan tool I will get a coolent temp sencor just for a spare if its not the fix.
 

martygar8

syclone #1322
Re: bad idle until I unplug the 3 bar map

hell im having the same problem, my syclone is running like crap and idles up and down and turns off, but is you get a little gas at a stop you can keep running, ive been having this problem for weeks, just seem to get worse, but when you disconnect the map sensor, seems to idle perfect, put 2, of the 2 bar map sensor still no luck, went to a friends shop, put on the scanner and says map sensor to low, the weird thing is when you pull the vaccum line and run about 15 lbs of vaccum it idles perfect anything high runs like crap, when you connect the vaccum line to it and runs like crap, ive change the cap,rotor,plugs,wires,02 sensor, coolant temp sensor and checked for vaccum leaks and can't find s&*t! its starting to tick me off, if anybody can tell what direction to go would be appreciate!!!!
 

Trapper

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Re: bad idle until I unplug the 3 bar map

I'm hoping its not the ECM since I have drivers for 75lbs injectors don't know where to start there.
 

Trapper

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Re: bad idle until I unplug the 3 bar map

cloneman315 said:
8.7 that thing should be dumping fuel out the muffler at that number.
Ha I started it today it's 7.8 wow this sucks, my fuel pressure is 42psi and I have checked the ohms on the coolent sencor and it has dropped since I started it yesterday, if the PCM is bad would it even start?
 
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