Best OIL
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gkrcr882
SyTyless......for now!
Re: Best OIL
I ran Mobil 1 10w-30 in the Ty, also tried Rotella 15w-40 during the summer, no complaints. Lots of opinions on what works best, however the general consensus is:
1: use a reputable brand. Mobil, Shell, RP, Amsoil, Castrol, Valvoline, Motul, Pennzoil, etc. "gas station brand" or "walmart brand" is at your own risk
2: Viscosity is dependent on where and when you'll be driving the truck. Factory recommendation is 10w-30, however people will use 10w-40 or 15w-40 in hotter weather.
3: Synthetic is required, since it serves a critical role in lubricating the turbocharger. The high heat (even being water cooled) can cause break down and coking of lower grade oils.
4: don't forget the filter. I personally ran a Mobil 1 filter, however people run whatever they feel like. General consensus is to avoid Fram.
These are just bits of info I've picked up over the years from countless threads that pop up about this subject. Using the Search function will net you pages of info from over the years.
I ran Mobil 1 10w-30 in the Ty, also tried Rotella 15w-40 during the summer, no complaints. Lots of opinions on what works best, however the general consensus is:
1: use a reputable brand. Mobil, Shell, RP, Amsoil, Castrol, Valvoline, Motul, Pennzoil, etc. "gas station brand" or "walmart brand" is at your own risk
2: Viscosity is dependent on where and when you'll be driving the truck. Factory recommendation is 10w-30, however people will use 10w-40 or 15w-40 in hotter weather.
3: Synthetic is required, since it serves a critical role in lubricating the turbocharger. The high heat (even being water cooled) can cause break down and coking of lower grade oils.
4: don't forget the filter. I personally ran a Mobil 1 filter, however people run whatever they feel like. General consensus is to avoid Fram.
These are just bits of info I've picked up over the years from countless threads that pop up about this subject. Using the Search function will net you pages of info from over the years.
92Typhoon1110
Rollin The Sy.......
Re: Best OIL
I use Royal Purple 10w 30. K&N oil filter.
I use Royal Purple 10w 30. K&N oil filter.
The Devils Own Chariot
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Re: Best OIL
I have heard good things about Amsoil. I don't use it.
I have heard good things about Amsoil. I don't use it.
Throws
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Supposedly, Pennzoil has a high paraffin (wax) contented based stock. My Dad told me that the colder nights would cause the wax base to clump oil passages until the engine got warmed up. Hell, could be different now, but it sticks out to me.
As far as Mobil, it has more to do with shitty marketing speak than anything else. They *used* to be a "full synthetic" PAO-based oil.... then somewhere along the line, they went to a mixed base that had dino-oil as a component. There are some viscosities that have better base stocks, (supposedly "Ferrari spec" 10w60, etc...), but it's not the same as it used to be.
FWIW: API explicitly emphasizes that "synthetic" is a marketing term and not a technical term. So, unless you know the base-stocks, "Fully synthetic" is a lie.
:2cents:
-P
Supposedly, Pennzoil has a high paraffin (wax) contented based stock. My Dad told me that the colder nights would cause the wax base to clump oil passages until the engine got warmed up. Hell, could be different now, but it sticks out to me.
As far as Mobil, it has more to do with shitty marketing speak than anything else. They *used* to be a "full synthetic" PAO-based oil.... then somewhere along the line, they went to a mixed base that had dino-oil as a component. There are some viscosities that have better base stocks, (supposedly "Ferrari spec" 10w60, etc...), but it's not the same as it used to be.
FWIW: API explicitly emphasizes that "synthetic" is a marketing term and not a technical term. So, unless you know the base-stocks, "Fully synthetic" is a lie.
:2cents:
-P
atkonkler
Is this your bush?
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Eeeeeerrrrr wrong they are not paraffin based oils. Do you think that if they put wax in Pennzoil they would have a lot of lawsuits on their hands. All oil must meet the same standards set by API /American Petroleum Institute. I have this discussion all the time with silly people who think they put paraffin wax in theyer oil. Read up on oil before you post. Think about it if they did they wouldn't be around still if they did that. C'mon throws don't believe everything you read ! Not trying to start an argument.
Eeeeeerrrrr wrong they are not paraffin based oils. Do you think that if they put wax in Pennzoil they would have a lot of lawsuits on their hands. All oil must meet the same standards set by API /American Petroleum Institute. I have this discussion all the time with silly people who think they put paraffin wax in theyer oil. Read up on oil before you post. Think about it if they did they wouldn't be around still if they did that. C'mon throws don't believe everything you read ! Not trying to start an argument.
Flyin Ryan
hated cuz he drives fords
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Stay away from pennzoil... Seen what it can do to a few motors non syty related though although I remember someone way back may have been myclone but some posted the end results with running the junk.
Stay away from pennzoil... Seen what it can do to a few motors non syty related though although I remember someone way back may have been myclone but some posted the end results with running the junk.
It's just a six
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I took engine rebuilding classes in Colllege & the instructor showed us a couple of engine oil pans from engines taken apart for rebuilding & the owners only used Pennzoil.
There was a lot of sludge build-up in the corners of the oil pans, instructor said that was very typical of Pennzoil engine oil users.:tdown::tdown:
I took engine rebuilding classes in Colllege & the instructor showed us a couple of engine oil pans from engines taken apart for rebuilding & the owners only used Pennzoil.
There was a lot of sludge build-up in the corners of the oil pans, instructor said that was very typical of Pennzoil engine oil users.:tdown::tdown:
atkonkler
Is this your bush?
Re: Best OIL
Straight from the horses mouth of an employee of Pennzoil!
Nothing to clear as for as I'm concerned. My Dad used Pennzoil in the 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, and 70's. I never heard him say anything about sludge and I never saw any sludge after I was old enough to know what oil was. He worked for Mobil for 40 years and he used Pennzoil.
I went to work for Pennzoil in 1985 and I have heard every horror story you can come up with. Was it the oil, don't know, I didn't have anything to do with in before 1985, but I doubt that was the total blame. As has been mentioned, lot of factors cause sludge, the least of them is the oil. Oil was not designed to cause sludge. And the pariffin story is so old I just want to
I chalk it up to several things, one being poor maintance by vehicle owners, whether they want to admit it or not, and the fact that more Pennzoil is used than any other brand. Kind of like Chevrolet. Go to any repair shop and you will always see more Chevrolets in there than any other brand. Not because their bad, just because there are so many of them.
Let me give you an example. Pennzoil has been the number one selling motor oil in North America since 1983. Quaker State has been number two and Valvoline has been number three. To give you some kind of idea of volumes, there is more Pennzoil sold than Quaker State and Valvoline put together. So, somewhere down the line someone is going to have a problem. That's just the way it is.
Pennzoil was a leader in technology for many years. It was the first PCMO that was turbo approved in all viscosities. Pennzoil was using Group II basestocks in EVERY product they made 6-years before anyone else. It was Chevron that came up with the process to make Group II basestocks, but at the time they were only using it in the Delo 15W40 that they sold on the west coast. As others have said, since GF-4 and API SM most all oils are now made with Group II or better basestocks, so the playing field has been leveled.
It was Pennzoil that worked with Ford Motor Company to formulate 5W20. I was there when they tested it in Dearborn. Due to contracts between Ford and Conoco and contracts and partnerships between Conoco and Pennzoil, Conoco made the final product for Ford.
While I was there several large engine mfg wanted Pennzoil to make their oil. The three that come to mind were CAT, MACK, and Cummins. Pennzoil was ready to do that but they had one stipulation, somewhere on the containers in small print it had to say it was made by Pennzoil. The mfg would not go for that and the rest is history. If Pennzoil was going to make a product they were going to put their name on it. Times have changed since then and who know what the new owners are doing.
I use to really get ticked at all the dumb rumors and let it get to me. Not anymore. I'm RETIRED and I DO NOT CARE.
My family has used Pennzoil for over 76 years and it has never let us down. When I'm dead and gone, I could care less what my kids use in their cars. But as long as I'm here, they will use PENNZOIL.
Straight from the horses mouth of an employee of Pennzoil!
Nothing to clear as for as I'm concerned. My Dad used Pennzoil in the 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, and 70's. I never heard him say anything about sludge and I never saw any sludge after I was old enough to know what oil was. He worked for Mobil for 40 years and he used Pennzoil.
I went to work for Pennzoil in 1985 and I have heard every horror story you can come up with. Was it the oil, don't know, I didn't have anything to do with in before 1985, but I doubt that was the total blame. As has been mentioned, lot of factors cause sludge, the least of them is the oil. Oil was not designed to cause sludge. And the pariffin story is so old I just want to
I chalk it up to several things, one being poor maintance by vehicle owners, whether they want to admit it or not, and the fact that more Pennzoil is used than any other brand. Kind of like Chevrolet. Go to any repair shop and you will always see more Chevrolets in there than any other brand. Not because their bad, just because there are so many of them.
Let me give you an example. Pennzoil has been the number one selling motor oil in North America since 1983. Quaker State has been number two and Valvoline has been number three. To give you some kind of idea of volumes, there is more Pennzoil sold than Quaker State and Valvoline put together. So, somewhere down the line someone is going to have a problem. That's just the way it is.
Pennzoil was a leader in technology for many years. It was the first PCMO that was turbo approved in all viscosities. Pennzoil was using Group II basestocks in EVERY product they made 6-years before anyone else. It was Chevron that came up with the process to make Group II basestocks, but at the time they were only using it in the Delo 15W40 that they sold on the west coast. As others have said, since GF-4 and API SM most all oils are now made with Group II or better basestocks, so the playing field has been leveled.
It was Pennzoil that worked with Ford Motor Company to formulate 5W20. I was there when they tested it in Dearborn. Due to contracts between Ford and Conoco and contracts and partnerships between Conoco and Pennzoil, Conoco made the final product for Ford.
While I was there several large engine mfg wanted Pennzoil to make their oil. The three that come to mind were CAT, MACK, and Cummins. Pennzoil was ready to do that but they had one stipulation, somewhere on the containers in small print it had to say it was made by Pennzoil. The mfg would not go for that and the rest is history. If Pennzoil was going to make a product they were going to put their name on it. Times have changed since then and who know what the new owners are doing.
I use to really get ticked at all the dumb rumors and let it get to me. Not anymore. I'm RETIRED and I DO NOT CARE.
My family has used Pennzoil for over 76 years and it has never let us down. When I'm dead and gone, I could care less what my kids use in their cars. But as long as I'm here, they will use PENNZOIL.
SYCLONE#1531
'MOFOFAST
Re: Best OIL
Amsoil is excellent, use it in all my vehicles! My dad is a dealer!
Amsoil is excellent, use it in all my vehicles! My dad is a dealer!
Mephisto
These trucks are cursed
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my dad used pennzoil in his daily driver and got over 240k out of the car before he sold it. I've used cheap Texaco Havoline 10w30 in my daily driver since I bought it with 30k, and i have 170k on it now and never had an issue with it burning oil. I used Mobil 1 in my Syclone and never had a problem either. Tough to say what's BS and what isn't.
what i'm wondering is that i hear you can run synthetic for 5k in a regular car but only 3k in a turbo application. Is that BS as well? or can you run synthetic 5k in syty too?
my dad used pennzoil in his daily driver and got over 240k out of the car before he sold it. I've used cheap Texaco Havoline 10w30 in my daily driver since I bought it with 30k, and i have 170k on it now and never had an issue with it burning oil. I used Mobil 1 in my Syclone and never had a problem either. Tough to say what's BS and what isn't.
what i'm wondering is that i hear you can run synthetic for 5k in a regular car but only 3k in a turbo application. Is that BS as well? or can you run synthetic 5k in syty too?
alwayscode390
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