Chip

[CodyTY23]

How big of a difference does a chip make? I need to do something because last night my dad was in his ford ranger and we were at a stop light together and he was only about a car lengh behind me up until 80 when i shut it down and that is with a brand new RPM stage 1 turbo. :rant: I need to do something because stock boost isnt cutting it and i am basically down right embarassed

 

[Foot Performance]

Re: Chip

http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=51471

I never installed it but i would imagen it would really help make good power

it is a syty specific chip

 

[kwadep21]

Re: Chip

http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=51471

I never installed it but i would imagen it would really help make good power

it is a syty specific chip

Anyone correct if I am wrong, but a chip may not be what you need. A bone stock Typhoon should spank your fathers Ranger. Have you logged your truck with Datamaster or similar software. I would highly recommend that step if you have not already done so.

 

[boycer11]

Re: Chip

You should have blown him away. Do a tune up and get datamaster to see what you truck is doing. :tup:

 

[fivetodrive]

Re: Chip

Even if you dont get datamaster you could get tunerpro... That and a cable will help you figure out what is going on. You could be causing damage by not datalogging....

 

[allwheeldriven]

Re: Chip

Did you boost launch?
Not sure about a Ty but in my stock Sy I smoked a zo6 from a light to about 80mph multiple times and have killed Mustangs, Evo's and STi's.


If the truck is running right my money is on the driver being the problem here..... not the lack of a chip.

try this
hold the brakes down hard then shift to neutral and rev the engine until the brake pedal stops going down then shift to drive and press the gas a little to build boost when the light turns green let off the brakes and hammer the gas.

stock I could hold 5-7 lbs of boost before it would start to creep off the line or spin the rear tires.

 

[dgoodhue]

Re: Chip

Unless I am totally off on rangers (which I don't follow), my first impression is your truck isn't running upto par, especially at altitude a ranger should be blown away vs Typhoon. I would invest in a scan tool first and see what is wrong. The stock chip isn't the best for performance, but if doesn't run good a stock chip its going ot run even worse with a modified one.

 

[CodyTY23]

Re: Chip

Did you boost launch?
Not sure about a Ty but in my stock Sy I smoked a zo6 from a light to about 80mph multiple times and have killed Mustangs, Evo's and STi's.


If the truck is running right my money is on the driver being the problem here..... not the lack of a chip.

try this
hold the brakes down hard then shift to neutral and rev the engine until the brake pedal stops going down then shift to drive and press the gas a little to build boost when the light turns green let off the brakes and hammer the gas.

stock I could hold 5-7 lbs of boost before it would start to creep off the line or spin the rear tires.

The truck wont really build boost when i try to launch and i dont know why!

 

[SCWolverine]

Re: Chip

How big of a difference does a chip make? I need to do something because last night my dad was in his ford ranger and we were at a stop light together and he was only about a car lengh behind me up until 80 when i shut it down and that is with a brand new RPM stage 1 turbo. :rant: I need to do something because stock boost isnt cutting it and i am basically down right embarassed

After reading through some of your other posts I'll throw a few things out there (bored at work). Don't take any of this as a lecture, and I'm not talking down to you.

Throwing parts/boost at it isn't the answer. The biggest gains that can be had come by making what(ever) you have WORK RIGHT. The best money you could spend would be getting set up to tune (or at the very least monitor) your truck, if the $$ isn't there for that, find the closest person who is and get together.

It is a hard thing to do, but not racing that "sh*t talking ricer" revving at the light is a lot less embarassing than throwing a rod out the pan trying to race him while your truck is knocking/pulling timing/... You really need to know what it is doing before trying to find out what it can do.

Working on/tuning these things really needs to be something you enjoy unless you're not planning on keeping it long, or have really deep pockets. The info is all here, if you can't find it just ask. Worst case you get told to search (and probably pointed in the right direction also). Just my $.02, best of luck to you.

Edit: Do you have a boost gauge (not stock)? Is the turbo the only thing you changed? Did you do what was suggested here?: http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=49489&highlight=base+boost

 

[Flyin Ryan]

Re: Chip

I replaced my stock turbo that I was running 18psi on with a stage1 with stock boost (14psi) and felt a difference especially in the mid range, spool was the same..

My point here is that without the stage 1 turbo you should be raping your father's ranger.. hell I replaced my stock turbo that I was running 18psi with infavor of a stage1 like yourself and with stock boost i felt an improvement especially in the mid range.

So before you get into the throttle again i'd do like others suggested and link up with a local that has datamaster or tunercat and data log your truck.. see what's wrong or why it's slow and even post up the log file here so the old heads can take a look for you.

 

[CodyTY23]

Re: Chip

After reading through some of your other posts I'll throw a few things out there (bored at work). Don't take any of this as a lecture, and I'm not talking down to you.

Throwing parts/boost at it isn't the answer. The biggest gains that can be had come by making what(ever) you have WORK RIGHT. The best money you could spend would be getting set up to tune (or at the very least monitor) your truck, if the $$ isn't there for that, find the closest person who is and get together.

It is a hard thing to do, but not racing that "sh*t talking ricer" revving at the light is a lot less embarassing than throwing a rod out the pan trying to race him while your truck is knocking/pulling timing/... You really need to know what it is doing before trying to find out what it can do.

Working on/tuning these things really needs to be something you enjoy unless you're not planning on keeping it long, or have really deep pockets. The info is all here, if you can't find it just ask. Worst case you get told to search (and probably pointed in the right direction also). Just my $.02, best of luck to you.

Edit: Do you have a boost gauge (not stock)? Is the turbo the only thing you changed? Did you do what was suggested here?: http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=49489&highlight=base+boost

I'll be the first to admit i really dont know much about sytys yet but im trying to learn. Thats why im wondering what i should do. On average how long should it take to build boost in a launch? because i have launched a few times and never have i had the tires even come close to spinning in the front or the rear! I have set up a datamaster run but what else should i do to improve? also do i need to keep the intercooler hooked up since the turbo is oil cooled now because the line that connects from my turbo to the intercooler is hitting the battery and it keeps sparking could this be a problem?

 

[Flyin Ryan]

Re: Chip

also do i need to keep the intercooler hooked up since the turbo is oil cooled now because the line that connects from my turbo to the intercooler is hitting the battery and it keeps sparking could this be a problem?

putting another turbo on doens't mean you can cancel out your intercooling system.. Yes you should still have your intercooling system hooked up just like it was with your old turbo.

Here's an old pic of mine when I was changing some stuff out but it shows how the intercooler should be connected.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v...all process/?action=view&current=DSC01361.jpg

So let me ask.. hows your setup now?? got a picture to post up?

 

[CodyTY23]

Re: Chip

putting another turbo on doens't mean you can cancel out your intercooling system.. Yes you should still have your intercooling system hooked up just like it was with your old turbo.

Here's an old pic of mine when I was changing some stuff out but it shows how the intercooler should be connected.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v...all process/?action=view&current=DSC01361.jpg

So let me ask.. hows your setup now?? got a picture to post up?

heres a few pics of the current setup there a little blurry but you can see the general idea

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x220/mmaguy23/PICT0753.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x220/mmaguy23/PICT0752.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x220/mmaguy23/PICT0751.jpg

 

[Flyin Ryan]

Re: Chip

Not sure what im looking at here.. but is that fused blue power lead attached to a bolt of the wastegate?? or is it attached to a really long post on the battery?

Also that metal section of coolent line from the heater core that's by the battery in your picks useally goes under the battery tray and even bolts to it on the underside. Could always remove the metal line and replace it with 3/4" heater hose.

 

[91blazins10]

Re: Chip

I think you should have someone local to you have a look at it, is it me or is there a huge tear in the turbo to ic hose?

 

[Flyin Ryan]

Re: Chip

I think you should have someone local to you have a look at it, is it me or is there a huge tear in the turbo to ic hose?

I agree in that second pic you can see it's blown apart! There's where all your boost is going man

 

[Tooky]

Re: Chip

Wow, that thing has a hell of a leak! Be careful, Wide Open Throttle with a leak that big will result in the turbo increasing in speed to practically infinity.... it can damage the bearings on the turbo from dramatic overspinning.. Hopefully you got lucky and won't have a problem. But to be safe I wouldn't floor the gas until you get that hose fixed!!

 

[SY1616]

Re: Chip

You should have been able to waste him. Something's not right. I posted last week that I couldn't beat my wife driving my Syclone and I was driving a 400hp+ 6 speed car and she didn't do any sort of launch. Have that thing looked over!

 

[TYTILIDIE]

Re: Chip

You shouldve brought that thing down to the BBQ we had in June, it would ve been a garanteed fix. We all talked for hours about these kinds of things. You gotta start hanging with the locals man or you might not ever get anywhere. But X2 on the hose :rotf: How is that not obvious that something is wrong?

 

[SCWolverine]

Re: Chip

I'll be the first to admit i really dont know much about sytys yet but im trying to learn. Thats why im wondering what i should do. On average how long should it take to build boost in a launch? because i have launched a few times and never have i had the tires even come close to spinning in the front or the rear! I have set up a datamaster run but what else should i do to improve? also do i need to keep the intercooler hooked up since the turbo is oil cooled now because the line that connects from my turbo to the intercooler is hitting the battery and it keeps sparking could this be a problem?

Not a thing wrong with that, you're in the right place to do your learning. Building boost for launch will depend (stall speed...), but shouldn't be more than a couple of secs. Not something you want to test repeatedly as you're putting heat into the tranny doing this (tranny heat = bad). Intercooler cools the air charge (keep it), the oil cools the turbo (bearings), so yes, you need both. The others covered your hose issues. Unless you're takling about plugs, sparks are bad. Replace that long bolt with a regular battery terminal bolt, and run your blue wire into the other side of the connector (where the bolts pinch the big wire).

As far as Datamaster goes, lookout for knock retard, that's the killer (knock). By all means post a run or two, there are several who'd be happy to take a look.