Cladding Paint Mystery Solved!

[MyNewSy005]

Thanks to Guy at Rockford Racecraft this is the original factory formula:

1. Light scuff with coarse Scotch Brite and then a Fine Scotch Brite
2. 1 coat of PPG Bumper Clear
3. 2 coats: PPG 1683 Black Base
4. 1-2 coats: PPG BASE Clear
5. 1 coat: PPG 2060 FLEX N FLAT

 

[Ry368]

Re: Cladding Paint Mystery Solved!

Thanks to Guy at Rockford Racecraft this is the original factory formula:

1. Light scuff with coarse Scotch Brite and then a Fine Scotch Brite
2. 1 coat of PPG Bumper Clear
3. 2 coats: PPG 1683 Black Base
4. 1-2 coats: PPG BASE Clear
5. 1 coat: PPG 2060 FLEX N FLAT

Wow...that's a lot of paint there...if you paint yours throw some pics up please...thanx! :tup:

 

[Foot Performance]

Re: Cladding Paint Mystery Solved!

x2 I would like to see it

 

[turbodig]

Re: Cladding Paint Mystery Solved!

Here's what I have per the factory TSB... Maybe the numbers have changed?

This is TSB dated April 1992 92-1073(A)

Note: I'm paraphrasing some of this to avoid typing.

1) Inspect part for damage. Remove from vehicle if necessary
2) Wash with soap and water
3) Solvent wipe with DX-330 Grease and wax remover or equivalent
4) Repair damage and featheredge surrounding area with 240-320 grit paper.
5) For Gray molding: Apply one wet coat of DP Epoxy Primer.
For black molding: Apply one wet coat of DP-90 Epoxy Primer
If additional filling is needed, apply 2 coats of K-36 Acrylic Urethane Primer Surfacer
Finish sand with 400 grit, and re-apply 1 coat of epoxy primer

6) Apply 2-3 coats of K-36 or K-200 Primer surfacer mixed with K-248 Flexible hardener.
7) After primer surfacer is dry, block sand with 400-600 grit. Clean with DX-330 grease and wax remover.

8) For Gray cladding: Apply 2-3 coats Deltron Acrylic Urethane DAU 35552 mixed with DX-369 Flexible additive.

For Black cladding: Apply 2-3 coats of DDL9862 low gloss black paint. (Note: there's no mention of flexible additive)

9) Allow to dry for 16 hours or force dry 40 minutes at 140 degrees.



Both this, and TSB 92-10-41 reference DDL 9862 as the refinish color for black cladding.
It's quite possible that both of these were superseded sometime in 93, but they will give you the correct original color.

It comes out really flat... you'll think the color is wrong, until you apply a good wax to it.


TSB quotes 9 hours labor for warranty work on these FWIW.

 

[MyNewSy005]

Re: Cladding Paint Mystery Solved!

now i am totally confused.

hmmm. this will take more work.

 

[MyNewSy005]

Re: Cladding Paint Mystery Solved!

anyone have a cracked or unwanted piece of cladding. my only thought at this point is to paint 2 pieces of cladding with both formulas to see which comes out correct. I only have one piece of cracked cladding which is prob too small to tape off and paint two different ways to get the full effect.

 

[turbodig]

Re: Cladding Paint Mystery Solved!

I don't think you'll go wrong with either, as long as you use the same process for all the cladding. I would think the Base/Clear would have a slight gloss to it, similar to what you'd get if you wax the paint that the TSB recommends.

You could also take your bumper cover off, and test on the inside, or the back of one of the door cladding pieces.

 

[JSM]

Re: Cladding Paint Mystery Solved!

You could paint any panel to look at the colors.

 

[s_blazin]

Re: Cladding Paint Mystery Solved!

Here's what I have per the factory TSB... Maybe the numbers have changed?

This is TSB dated April 1992 92-1073(A)

Note: I'm paraphrasing some of this to avoid typing.

1) Inspect part for damage. Remove from vehicle if necessary
2) Wash with soap and water
3) Solvent wipe with DX-330 Grease and wax remover or equivalent
4) Repair damage and featheredge surrounding area with 240-320 grit paper.
5) For Gray molding: Apply one wet coat of DP Epoxy Primer.
For black molding: Apply one wet coat of DP-90 Epoxy Primer
If additional filling is needed, apply 2 coats of K-36 Acrylic Urethane Primer Surfacer
Finish sand with 400 grit, and re-apply 1 coat of epoxy primer

6) Apply 2-3 coats of K-36 or K-200 Primer surfacer mixed with K-248 Flexible hardener.
7) After primer surfacer is dry, block sand with 400-600 grit. Clean with DX-330 grease and wax remover.

8) For Gray cladding: Apply 2-3 coats Deltron Acrylic Urethane DAU 35552 mixed with DX-369 Flexible additive.

For Black cladding: Apply 2-3 coats of DDL9862 low gloss black paint. (Note: there's no mention of flexible additive)

9) Allow to dry for 16 hours or force dry 40 minutes at 140 degrees.



Both this, and TSB 92-10-41 reference DDL 9862 as the refinish color for black cladding.
It's quite possible that both of these were superseded sometime in 93, but they will give you the correct original color.

It comes out really flat... you'll think the color is wrong, until you apply a good wax to it.


TSB quotes 9 hours labor for warranty work on these FWIW.

old thread revival i know, but is this for sy or ty cladding? because gray was mentioned and i was confused at what trucks had gray besides ty's? they were glossy correct?

asking, only because i am looking for procedures and products on painting sy cladding the matte color they were originally.


EDIT: ah this is for sy and 92 ty yes?

 

[DaveP]

Re: Cladding Paint Mystery Solved!

8) For Gray cladding: Apply 2-3 coats Deltron Acrylic Urethane DAU 35552 mixed with DX-369 Flexible additive.

For Black cladding: Apply 2-3 coats of DDL9862 low gloss black paint. (Note: there's no mention of flexible additive)

Yes Ian, the gray is Ty, and the black is Sy. The problem I see with the above materials is that neither is readily available any longer. The gray "DAU" is PPG single-stage Acrylic Enamel. The black "DDL" is PPG Acrylic Lacquer. Neither product has been available in SoCal for at least 15 years.

Even the black has to be done in two-stage now. Especially to retain the low-gloss look of the origional raw (Syclone) cladding.

 

[s_blazin]

Re: Cladding Paint Mystery Solved!

ah, thanks Dave, any suggestions on what to use? i had forgotten you had painted your sy cladding. or had you?

 

[foxracin23]

Re: Cladding Paint Mystery Solved!

if i knew that the new cladding were a raw plastic or primer ill give you guys a much easier quicker cleaner way to do things. i paint cars for a living