Got a response from Melling Oil Pump break...

Foot Performance

Foot Performance

Donating Member
Re: Got a response from Melling Oil Pump break...

4C FED said:
Quite true. I was thinking about that in my last post. Rebranding is popular. Look at Summit & Jegs house brands. Summit & Jegs are not manufacturing those parts.

Regardless, one can still inquire with Moroso or whoever you decide to purchase from, on where they get their castings from. And if they reply Melling, just straight up tell them you won't buy their pump and why.
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Most melling have a m55a or m55hv or whatever on the pump and if it is a rebrand it will still have those markings and maybe some other markings.

But as far as I am concerned I am OUT as in no more mellings unless they bite the bullet and step up and take care of there mess. I could under stand if the pump ran dry or had signs of starving or was over torqued but just to flat out break at a so called strong point of the pump that IS a Manufature Deffect.

Performance vehicle is a COPOUT! end of story I have a billet pump in my other car and beat the piss out of it but how many times has epix ty seen 8500 rpm none these motor have such a low rev limiter that break should never happen ever. :2cents:

Very diapointing to read that this company ,that is a wanna be high performance vender, will not stand behind there work. And I do relialize the HP parts dont carry a warranty but when I pay 2k for a crankshaft I dont get a piece of shit. And if my Callies crank snapped in two and I called them and said WTF they would say let me take care of it!!!

I feel much better :rant:
 
cameronsclone

cameronsclone

New member
Re: Got a response from Melling Oil Pump break...

The word "performance" can't be used to back themselves up. There is no set definition to use a term like that to void a warranty. Besides, were putting these things on SUVs and trucks :) . I totally agree on putting them in the doghouse. If a company has such a claim about their customers they should back them up better than they have shown.
 
epix

epix

Typhoon
Re: Got a response from Melling Oil Pump break...

Going to request the pump back on Wednesday and most likely file a case in small claims court.
 
4C FED

4C FED

Absolutum Dominium
Re: Got a response from Melling Oil Pump break...

Where Melling went wrong is when they decided to change the design without changing the part number.
The new weak casting pump should have had a new part number, while the "M-select" pumps (which really appear to be the original casting design) should have retained the old part number.

While it is certainly the same in fit, it is significantly different in form & function. Coming from a company that manufactures equipment, using the same part number for something that doesn't meet the three criteria is a no-no.

IMO, Melling's use of the same part number for the weaker casting is very mis-leading.
 
SY2932

SY2932

Administrator
Re: Got a response from Melling Oil Pump break...

THEMADTYPH00N said:
One thing you guys may have to consider about your boycott is Melling supplies pumps for a lot of other manufacturers. I think Moroso is one but other than that I'm not sure. It may be kind of hard to get away from them.
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I may not be 100% here but, I *think* Melling makes pumps for EVERYONE including GM. And that the penny pinching revision to the casting was at the request of an auto manufacturer which would make alot of sense. Saving a 16th of an ounce over several hundred thousand parts would be VERY significant. If that be the case, I find it hard to believe that any auto manufacturer would allow something out that would KILL them in warranty work. But then again, look at all the recalls that affect the new cars...

epix said:
Going to request the pump back on Wednesday and most likely file a case in small claims court.
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Good luck on that one. I bet that you don't get it back because after it was "examined" and found to not be their "fault" it prolly got filed
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. If that be the case, that's a GREAT way to cover their ass. "Oh sir we need you to ship that to us so that we can check it out". After they get it, they just can it and you are left with NOTHING to prove your case. They get you to surrender the only evidence that you have so that they can get rid of it.
 
HighPerformanceTrucks

HighPerformanceTrucks

Lift & Shift Specialist
Re: Got a response from Melling Oil Pump break...

Use the Melling 10553 heavy duty pump with thicker casting for racing purposes. It's also a higher volume pump. I am installing this pump in my race motor.
 
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E-Rue

New member
Re: Got a response from Melling Oil Pump break...

i returned the melling pumps i had on the shelf. we were using the M55HV in all our motors. FYI..... there was NO sheet included with the pump that said for stock applications only. now i have to contact the people that have one of our motors and warn them.

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UR50SLO

UR50SLO

V6+2=LSXCamaro
Re: Got a response from Melling Oil Pump break...

Well that Sucks Pete...

Even though I've got the M-Select in our truck I'm going to go billet. I'm not taking a chance.

I researched this awhile back on a new design. I'll have to find that info.

Take it as far as you can go with the court systems. Can't hurt unless it costs more than the

damage was.

I'll be the one putting the engine back together (again)..... I could not believe my eyes when I pulled

the pan and found the pump laying at the bottom... I was like WTF??????

And now here we are. :(

~Scott~
 
HighPerformanceTrucks

HighPerformanceTrucks

Lift & Shift Specialist
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Grimgrak

New member
Re: Got a response from Melling Oil Pump break...

It's nice that they now make the m-select but i dont want to support a shady company like this do we have any other optoins?
 
G

Grimgrak

New member
Re: Got a response from Melling Oil Pump break...

U should print that page up and send it back to them wrapped around a broken oil pump.
Loeryder said:
A little company history:
http://data.melling.com/history.php



I would start stomping up the food chain reiterating the fine principles they have posted on their website.
Send a certified letter to "Mr. Melling" and see where that gets you.

It looks like they spent more on the company web page than they did on refining their castings.

I wonder if the castings are even manufactured in the US.
And if they are where does the material come from.
It sure smells like China's cheap sintered steel.
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EcSy#2671

EcSy#2671

Si vis pacem, para bellum
Re: Got a response from Melling Oil Pump break...

4C FED said:
They have contact info on their site.
I suggest we and other enthusiasts tell them how dissappointed we are in their product & their inability to stand behind their inferior product.

I personally will never buy another melling product.

Sales: briske@melling.com
Technical: technical@melling.com

Also, maybe someone can host a site where photos & stories about melling pump failures can be listed.

The web has power, we should use it.
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Email sent
 
ghettosled

ghettosled

SYTY SUPERSTORE
Re: Got a response from Melling Oil Pump break...

the bottom line is all major auto manufactors look for ways to save a penny here or there. Over millions of parts it all adds up. The casting change was a result of that, and a constant pressure Melling had to deal with to please companies spending hundreds of millions of dollars. Contrary to what many of you think pretty much all the castings and founderies are overseas. I've even had parts arrive from Edelbrock w/ "made in China" stickers and their claim to fame is "proudly made in the USA". As long as they do a final modification such as installing a bolt or spring in the pump they can claim it was made in the USA.

I feel sorry for those of you who suffered a major engine failure which was a direct result of a product failure. Its happened to me several times, and unfortunately there isn't much that can be done. A lawsuit is just a waste of your time and money. Accept your loss and move on.

We've also switched to a modified version of the select pump, just for the customers piece of mind. However percentage wise, i dont think the failure rate of the newer castings is too alarming. I agree even one failure should be unacceptable, but in reality there are god knows how many of these pumps being used, and how many that have failed? The select pump is no more intended for "performance" then the regular version, thats just there way of voiding the so called warranty. I seriously doubt the minimal changes in the thickness had much to do with it. More likely the process or materials being used during the casting stages of these particular pumps. I wouldn't panic if your motor has a newer casting. But just like there is a chance of being struck by lightning, there is a chance your oil pump will fall apart.

It's easy to blame Melling and take sides, however if Melling were to openly accept responsibility and send you a check for the damages, you would have thousands of people purposely breaking their oil pumps and trying to get their motors warrantied. I'm sure their has to be a certain percentage of failed product to warrant a "recall" and they probably havent hit that number yet.
 
cloneman315

cloneman315

Active member
Re: Got a response from Melling Oil Pump break...

so mike and eric etc what pumps are u going to use now?will the stock pan fit on with other pumps?Is melling paying anything out even for a new pump etc?
 
HighPerformanceTrucks

HighPerformanceTrucks

Lift & Shift Specialist
Re: Got a response from Melling Oil Pump break...

I have to return this pump as it won't work in my custom RPM sheetmetal oil pan as the pan is too deep.

Looking at an external wet sump system or perhaps a dry sump setup instead.

ivanko barbell said:
UPDATE:

After much thought I figured I'm not going to take any chances with a motor costing more than some new sports cars with a $75.00 cast iron oil pump so for piece of mind I drove down to Summit Racing and picked up this pump:

http://www.highperformancetrucks.com/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=6809

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MOR%2D22171&N=700+115&autoview=sku
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