How many are using Air to Air
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THEMADTYPH00N
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I have the RPM unit also. The only advantage I can see to a water setup is being able to ice it at the track. On the street air to air is where its at.
G
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Air/Air cleans up certain parts of the engine bay. I'll be saving up for my air/air soon. No more water leaks, hoses etc!
hamrhead
Donating Member
ZMann said:
What he said.
For me, I've always appreciated the simplicity of air2air over water2air. I bought my Sy new, and by '93 I had KB's air2air and have never missed the stock water/air unit. Air2air makes some serious space under the hood.
Last year I picked up RPM's air2air which is an even cleaner install than the KB.
sy538
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ty1435_4.3
Shes almost ready
I had one made from the Izuzu truck and have it with my T-72 and there is almost a 95 deg. difference. Awsome
jwaller
Evil Genius/SyTy Guru
I have installed every A/A available for these trucks and the mccoy is the largest followed closly by the rpm.
I like the rpm the best bc you can keep the stock fan. mccoy makes you remove the fan in place of a pair of elec's
hp gains between the 2 is prob less than 5.
kb is very small and the dequick dual ic is just an absolute mess with all those pipes, joints and bends.
I like the rpm the best bc you can keep the stock fan. mccoy makes you remove the fan in place of a pair of elec's
hp gains between the 2 is prob less than 5.
kb is very small and the dequick dual ic is just an absolute mess with all those pipes, joints and bends.
92BlkTy
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working on my setup now. since weve established that ATA is the best for street use, what about Dual ata?
I bought a Saab9000 IC cheap, and im thinking of picking up a stock top mount Subaru WRX one cheap from a friend that went FMIC. i figgure put the 9000 IC in the Grill, and the Subie' in the CCHE location.
would that be worth the effort?
I bought a Saab9000 IC cheap, and im thinking of picking up a stock top mount Subaru WRX one cheap from a friend that went FMIC. i figgure put the 9000 IC in the Grill, and the Subie' in the CCHE location.
would that be worth the effort?
PPI Typhoon
DIY Madman
ty1435_4.3 said:
Got any pics of your setup??
Jer
Don't taze me bro!
92BlkTy said:
If ones is good,two has got to be better, right? Not in the case of A2A IC's. The problem is you run into efficiency issues. Let's say that IC you're using has 1.5psi of pressure drop across it and so does the other.. If the first one is cooling well enough then you're set. If you add a second one you'll loose performance as you're adding more of a pressure drop. Stay with one good IC core. If you went w/the Saab 9000 IC core then you'll be just fine.
I agree with you Jer, but Dequick setup was executed *decently*, as the cores on that system were run in parallel, rather than series. This setup can work well if designed properly, IMO.
Just something to keep in mind if you are planning DIY stuff.
Anyways, keep an open mind, cheap projects are fun, you never know what you'll learn
Just something to keep in mind if you are planning DIY stuff.
Anyways, keep an open mind, cheap projects are fun, you never know what you'll learn
Jer
Don't taze me bro!
smeagol said:I agree with you Jer, but Dequick setup was executed *decently*, as the cores on that system were run in parallel, rather than series. This setup can work well if designed properly, IMO.
Just something to keep in mind if you are planning DIY stuff.
Anyways, keep an open mind, cheap projects are fun, you never know what you'll learn
I don't know anything about that set-up but you would need to be running your turbo beyond it's efficiency level to require the use of two intercoolers. If you have the correct set-up, one decent IC will cover your needs. Now, as far as two IC's I would be surprised if the pressure drop was worth the gains in temp decrease.
Just my experience.
You'd have to see that setup. The 2 intercooler shared end tanks, and it basically allowed you to run a decent size intercooler down below, and a decent sized intercooler in front of the radiator.
Too large down below is wasted as there is no airflow, too large of an IC up top and you restrict too much of the airflow to the radiator. I thought the cores were well laid out, but the pipe routing sucks.
As far as your statement goes, that's a broad generalization. Sure a single large core works, but fitment is an issue in the trucks, and the Dequick design wasn't such that it operated like 2 cores, rather 1 core that had modified end tanks. I'd have no qualms about using that core setup on a fast truck (and they have been used on some fast trucks)- the pipes left a lot to be desired, however. Core size/flow/turbo size is all going to be subjective. Supra guys swear by a 4 row Greddy setup that has a HUGE core setup, that you couldn't use in any Syty, unless you threw the radiator out back, or some other crazy setup. Most guys using that core setup on Supras are using 60-77mm turbos, like Syty's have done.