How to fix wrapped oil pressure gauge.

Syclone #1721

I LOVE 4UM SUPERSTARS
Well my oil pressure gauge has not worked since I bought my Sy. It has been wrapped all the way around. Now recently I installed new intake gaskets so while I had the opportunity to access the oil pressure switch easily, I switched it out. Now some people say that the gauged just needs to be pinned and while that doesnt hurt, I strongly believe from past experiences that these gauges wrap when the switch is going bad because the gauge acts erratic when first started. Nonethelss, I still had to reset the gauge and install a stop. This is a common problem so I figured Id share the procedure with my fellow SyTyers in hopes that it will help others. Id rate this at a 5 out of 10 on the skill level. Now on the patience level, this is gonna be a 100 out of 10. Read on and you will see why.....
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This is what has been haunting me since I bought the Sy. Im sure some of you have seen or are looking at this right now.
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Heres the tools you will need: flat and phillips screwdrivers, small flat screwdriver, needle nose pliers, a small hook tool, a T10 torx bit and a 10mm socket with extension.
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Start by removing the two phillips screws under the fog light switch.
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Next remove the two phillips screws under the headlight switch.
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Now pull the headlight switch assembly down and out. Disconnect the two connectors and put the assembly aside.
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Now disconnect the fog light harness socket and remove it from the dash. Using the flat screwdriver makes it easier to unhook the clip.
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Now under the dash, you will find six phillips screws. Three on each side of the steering column. Remove these.
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Under the heater controls, you will find two more phillips screws. Remove them.
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Now just like the headlight switch, pull the heater control assembly down and away. Be careful here. You have to be a little agrresive with this but not too much are you will break something. So far this has been easy. Well, get ready for the pain.
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At the top of the heater control assembly, there is a connector that goes to the fan speed switch. Use a flat head screwdriver to lift the lock and push the connector off the switch. Be patient.
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Next, unhook the two light bulbs that light up the controls. Twist and pull out. Be careful. These break easy.
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Ok, now on the right side of the controls, there is the connector that goes to the vent selector switch. Again, using the flat screwdriver, pry open the lock and push the connector back. This is a pain in the a$$. Be patient here too.
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Now at the bottom, you will see a series of colored vacuum lines with a bulk socket on the end. There are two round clips that hold this bulk socket on. These must be removed. Use the needle nose pliers to gently work these clips off. There is one on each side of the socket. These take alot of patience but def save some for the next two steps. You may need beer too. :rotf:
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Ok, the cable that controls the temperature is held on with another one of those round clips like from the previous step. Its on the left side. Remove this clip.
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If you havent smashed your dash apart yet, then continue to this step. On the right side, you will see a red clip that hold the cable housing in place. Use a flat screwdriver to pull the lock clip down while pushing the red clip out towards the left side. This is a pain in the a$$. Just be patient. It will happen.
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SUCCESS!!! Finally all your peristance has payed off. As much as you may want to, dont smash this with a hammer. Put it aside and continue. The worst is behind you now. Well until you go to put this back in. :rotf:
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In back of the headlight assembly and heater control assembly there are philips head screws. One per side. Remove them.
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Pull the dash bezel away from the rest of the dash and put aside.
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At the bottom of the gauge cluster there are two philips screws. One on each side. Remove them.
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At the top of the gauge cluster, there are two 10mm nuts. One on each side. Remove them.
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Grab the cluster and gently pull toward you. You may have to used a flat screwdriver to pry away the cluster from the two top studs.
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Now lay the cluster on its face and remove the torx head screws sourronding the cluster with the T10 torx bit. You can now seperate the clear cover from the cluster.
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Kind of off the topic but if you have the dash out, you might as well replace the dash bulbs. Nobody should have to go through those heater controls twice. :rotf: Ok back to the dash.
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Heres the donor nail. I actually got it out of a carpet tack strip I found when I was taking up my rugs. A little thin but looks good. Just cut it down to about 1/4 to 3/8 inch leaving the head on and spray paint it flat black. Instant needle stopper :tup:
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I used a little brush on Krazy Glue to put in in place. You only need a tiny bit.
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Simply take you finger and push the needle around counter clockwise. SImple as that.
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Now try to stick it in place where it looks like the other upper pins. There you have it. :tup:
Now to reassemble, just reverse the steps. When installing the heater controls, using the hook helps to pull some of the plugs back on to the terminals. More patiance.
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WOW....45lbs at idle. I had no idea... :rotf: ....and there you have it. I hope this helps others in doing this project. Its definitely a project that is done by an owner only. Can you imagine trying to expalin this to a mechanic and expect them to take the care to do it. That is why I did this. To make it easier for the do it yourselfer. Feel free to ask questions.

Joey
 

NJ93TY

Donating Member
Re: How to fix wrapped oil pressure gauge.

I must say this is a very helpful post, but not for me because mine works. But for everyone else who has a broken gauge thats great. Thanks for the post!
 

43t_ftw

Member
Re: How to fix wrapped oil pressure gauge.

nice post, one tip tho, instead of removing the heater controls there are a couple of bolts on the back you can take off and the face of the heater controls comes off then you can just slide the dash over without all the hassle

when i was doing mine i fought with those damn heater controls for a while before realizing you could simply take the face off and leave all the other crap connected ;)
 

Syclone #1721

I LOVE 4UM SUPERSTARS
Re: How to fix wrapped oil pressure gauge.

43t_ftw said:
nice post, one tip tho, instead of removing the heater controls there are a couple of bolts on the back you can take off and the face of the heater controls comes off then you can just slide the dash over without all the hassle

when i was doing mine i fought with those damn heater controls for a while before realizing you could simply take the face off and leave all the other crap connected ;)

Good tip.....worth noting.
 

gkrcr882

SyTyless......for now!
Re: How to fix wrapped oil pressure gauge.

Could you post pics of the easy heater control trick? I'm going to have to replace my gauge cluster at some point, and want to make it as painless as possible.
 

Tooky

Serious about performance
Re: How to fix wrapped oil pressure gauge.

Vault!! Another great write up. Saved to disk. :D

I did this back around 2002 when mine flipped, and I remember it was a real pain!
 

Bustedsm

Numbered Car Crazy
Re: How to fix wrapped oil pressure gauge.

Thank god I found this. My oil pressure gauge is in the same exact spot, help!

Haha
 

bezerk

New member
Re: How to fix wrapped oil pressure gauge.

you can also cut off the lower pin or leave the stop out of it.
 

Don W.

Stab it and steer it
Re: How to fix wrapped oil pressure gauge.

The way my brain works I want to know why it does this in the first place. :rotf: Seriously, nice write up!
 

Daman

Member
Re: How to fix wrapped oil pressure gauge.

I'm able to access the cluster without disconnecting the heater controls at all. Now, I do have a removable steering wheel, so I don't know if this technique will work with the stock wheel installed. I follow the same procedures shown above up to unscrewing the heater controls from the cluster bezel. I then pull the controls out far enough to reach the top screw of the bezel above the controls using an offset angle screwdriver attachment by Milwaukee (P/N 48-32-2100) or maybe a flex shaft. Once the bezel is loose I rotate the bezel clockwise around the heater controls towards the passenger side and let it rest on the center console. You now have access to remove the cluster.

I have also used the "remove the controls from the facepanel" method, which works by removing two small screw from the backside of control panel and removing the knobs from the slide levelers on the front. Make sure you don't knock the sliders off track will reinstalling the facepanel.
 

Syclone#2960

What ever it takes!!
Re: How to fix wrapped oil pressure gauge.

I just drilled a small hole into the plastic & used a paper clip to flip it back. 2-3 mins.
 

graham1524

Well-known member
Re: How to fix wrapped oil pressure gauge.

when replacing the bulbs do you have to replace the bulb and its holder both ? and where did you get replacements?
 

nello

Active member
Re: How to fix wrapped oil pressure gauge.

Nice post, looks like I've got some work to do. thx
 

s_blazin

Donating Member
Re: How to fix wrapped oil pressure gauge.

I have personally found the heater controls very very easy to take apart, just use a pair of needle nose pliers grab onto the small round black metal clips and work it side to side and they come off very easily.

i don't have much patience but i can do this in a few mins, i actually pulled the cluster out of the work s10 last night to compare something on my truck and getting tools out doing the job and putting it back together took all of about 15 mins with putting tools away included.

biggest caution is to be very careful when pulling the hot/cold cable away from the heater control, the little red plastic clip can break very easily if your not careful, to do most of the removal of that cable and all the wiring connectors i have a mini flathead that works perfect.

it's really not as bad as a someone might think
 

graham1524

Well-known member
Re: How to fix wrapped oil pressure gauge.

I have mine apart currently and on the back of the plate i took out the 2 silver screws and popped the slide controls off there slide thing and the face came off in a couple minutes
 

turrrbo6

Member
Re: How to fix wrapped oil pressure gauge.

^^X2^^ That's exactly what I did, also. Except I removed the headlight switch panel, and drilled the hole back there so it isn't visible in the cluster face. Took less than 3 minutes, including putting the tools away.

Mine's only done it twice in 8 years, so I didn't feel like a more permanent fix was justified. ( The extra pin method). Too easy to break stuff that wasn't broken before you began to fix something else.

Thanks for that tip Dave. I did the same thing to mine last night, easy fix and you can't see the small hole. This happened when I started mine at the shindig, first time ever and I've owned it since new. Lee
 
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