SpoolingTurbo6
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The info I need is, Is it possible in tunnuer pro4.0 to split a 16 bin chip into 16 different bin files?
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Tyson
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Tyson
HOW TO split a 256k into mutiple bins
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Re: HOW TO split a 256k into mutiple bins
Don't know about that other program, but the capability read in and unstack a multi-bin, as well as to stack multiple bins, is built-in to Promgrammer (since v1.1).
If you don't have Promgrammer, you can also use a hex editor to do the unstacking. Load the whole file, then select each bin and save it into a separate file. Likewise, to restack them, just load each bin file into the appropriate offset (0x00000, 0x04000, 0x08000, 0x0C000, 0x10000, etc) and save the whole thing to a new file.
Don't know about that other program, but the capability read in and unstack a multi-bin, as well as to stack multiple bins, is built-in to Promgrammer (since v1.1).
If you don't have Promgrammer, you can also use a hex editor to do the unstacking. Load the whole file, then select each bin and save it into a separate file. Likewise, to restack them, just load each bin file into the appropriate offset (0x00000, 0x04000, 0x08000, 0x0C000, 0x10000, etc) and save the whole thing to a new file.
SpoolingTurbo6
Donating Member
Re: HOW TO split a 256k into mutiple bins
I have Win hex and hex workshop ...will these work?
I have Win hex and hex workshop ...will these work?
mattw
Active member
Re: HOW TO split a 256k into mutiple bins
Tuner Pro will do it.. Its easy...
Go to:
Tools -> Bin Stacker/Splitter
Select Split(under mode in the upper right)
Choose 256k under bin size.
And 16(I think) under block size... Don't really remember what to choose here.
Then hit split....
Good luck....
-Matt
Tuner Pro will do it.. Its easy...
Go to:
Tools -> Bin Stacker/Splitter
Select Split(under mode in the upper right)
Choose 256k under bin size.
And 16(I think) under block size... Don't really remember what to choose here.
Then hit split....
Good luck....
-Matt
Re: HOW TO split a 256k into mutiple bins
If you can load the stacked bin into Promgrammer (using "Load Multi-ROM" under the File menu -- fully automatic, too!), but not into Tuner Pro, then my guess is that either you picked the wrong parameters in TunerPro (see mattw's post above) or there is a problem with TunerPro's import/split function.
It shouldn't matter which program does the stacking or unstacking. The "stacking" is really just appending one bin after another, until the desired number of bins is reached. There's nothing proprietary about the format, it's a straight binary file.93ty475 said:
If you can load the stacked bin into Promgrammer (using "Load Multi-ROM" under the File menu -- fully automatic, too!), but not into Tuner Pro, then my guess is that either you picked the wrong parameters in TunerPro (see mattw's post above) or there is a problem with TunerPro's import/split function.
I haven't tried either of those programs, so I can't give you any first-hand advice, but they should both work. Pick one and give it a try.macg3cpu said:
Re: HOW TO split a 256k into mutiple bins
I tried every possible combination of parameters offered, starting with what I believe to be the correct one...bin size 16k, chip size 256k, block size 16k....I'll try stacking a few bins and splitting them to see what it does.....my guess is either my copy of the file is corrupt or there is a problem with the import/split function as you mentioned....I have only recent experience with tunerpro, and no prior experience with promgrammer....I have to hand it to you Bill..... you always take the time to help out with these issues around here....It would be my pleasure to check out and learn promgrammer.....I'll send you a paypal, Bill, thanks.... :tup:
BillC said:
I tried every possible combination of parameters offered, starting with what I believe to be the correct one...bin size 16k, chip size 256k, block size 16k....I'll try stacking a few bins and splitting them to see what it does.....my guess is either my copy of the file is corrupt or there is a problem with the import/split function as you mentioned....I have only recent experience with tunerpro, and no prior experience with promgrammer....I have to hand it to you Bill..... you always take the time to help out with these issues around here....It would be my pleasure to check out and learn promgrammer.....I'll send you a paypal, Bill, thanks.... :tup:
mattw
Active member
Re: HOW TO split a 256k into mutiple bins
I think I may have had to do 16-256-32 to split and ultimate... Can't remember... Nor can I find my notes... If you want to send me the bin I can try to split it for you...
Or maybe thats when I was making a bin for a 512 chip... Its been a while...
mattw@suscom.net
-Matt
I think I may have had to do 16-256-32 to split and ultimate... Can't remember... Nor can I find my notes... If you want to send me the bin I can try to split it for you...
Or maybe thats when I was making a bin for a 512 chip... Its been a while...
mattw@suscom.net
-Matt
Tooky
Serious about performance
Re: HOW TO split a 256k into mutiple bins
I went through this when I started modifying my Ultimate chip BIN a few months ago. I ended up using MS Visual C++ hex editor to drag and drop the BINs which was a complete pain in the ass. Finally I found the TunerPro software has a nice BIN Splitter/Stacker BUT - with my Moates BURN1 burner, when I restacked it and put it on the chip, I found out that my T1-15 programs etc were in the wrong order?? I contacted TunerPro and we went back and forth and couldn't really figure it out.
It's like out of the 16 positions Valet through T3-24, when it comes to TunerPro Bin Stacker, Position 1 is really about T2-20 and conversly, Valet ends up at about Position 8. So when you run the Ultimate LED box, the programs don't actually coincide with the LED display (as confirmed using Datamaster PROMID to identify which program was truly running). I guess I could purposely put the programs in the "wrong" order in TunerPro so that when they get burned onto the chip, they land out in the "right" order. But there has to be a better way..
Anyone else run into this? Anyone else using restacked BINs with their Ultimate in the first place?
I went through this when I started modifying my Ultimate chip BIN a few months ago. I ended up using MS Visual C++ hex editor to drag and drop the BINs which was a complete pain in the ass. Finally I found the TunerPro software has a nice BIN Splitter/Stacker BUT - with my Moates BURN1 burner, when I restacked it and put it on the chip, I found out that my T1-15 programs etc were in the wrong order?? I contacted TunerPro and we went back and forth and couldn't really figure it out.
It's like out of the 16 positions Valet through T3-24, when it comes to TunerPro Bin Stacker, Position 1 is really about T2-20 and conversly, Valet ends up at about Position 8. So when you run the Ultimate LED box, the programs don't actually coincide with the LED display (as confirmed using Datamaster PROMID to identify which program was truly running). I guess I could purposely put the programs in the "wrong" order in TunerPro so that when they get burned onto the chip, they land out in the "right" order. But there has to be a better way..
Anyone else run into this? Anyone else using restacked BINs with their Ultimate in the first place?
mattw
Active member
Re: HOW TO split a 256k into mutiple bins
If I remember right you just need to put them backwards...
-Matt
TookyCat said:I went through this when I started modifying my Ultimate chip BIN a few months ago. I ended up using MS Visual C++ hex editor to drag and drop the BINs which was a complete pain in the ass. Finally I found the TunerPro software has a nice BIN Splitter/Stacker BUT - with my Moates BURN1 burner, when I restacked it and put it on the chip, I found out that my T1-15 programs etc were in the wrong order?? I contacted TunerPro and we went back and forth and couldn't really figure it out.
It's like out of the 16 positions Valet through T3-24, when it comes to TunerPro Bin Stacker, Position 1 is really about T2-20 and conversly, Valet ends up at about Position 8. So when you run the Ultimate LED box, the programs don't actually coincide with the LED display (as confirmed using Datamaster PROMID to identify which program was truly running). I guess I could purposely put the programs in the "wrong" order in TunerPro so that when they get burned onto the chip, they land out in the "right" order. But there has to be a better way..
Anyone else run into this? Anyone else using restacked BINs with their Ultimate in the first place?
If I remember right you just need to put them backwards...
-Matt
Re: HOW TO split a 256k into mutiple bins
Promgrammer lets you assign any loaded bin to any location in the stacked chip (including putting the same bin in multiple locations), and things always come out in the specified order.
Sorry for "tooting my own horn", but that was just too good an opportunity to pass up. :rotf:
There is: use Promgrammer!TookyCat said:
Promgrammer lets you assign any loaded bin to any location in the stacked chip (including putting the same bin in multiple locations), and things always come out in the specified order.Sorry for "tooting my own horn", but that was just too good an opportunity to pass up. :rotf: