McCoy Motorports

[BigBadSmoosh]

Re: McCoy Motorports

Wasn't just talking about one shop rather a few places and or people who are not listed as vendors but contribute work and have since almost day one.

As far as the one particular you named, why do you assume? He/they are VERY interested and has talked about sponsoring an event this year. I think you do not have all the information

Also, this website is NOT the community. What about Hot August Nights in Reno.... all those people been around probably before you knew what a SyTy was but since they do not post they are not considered part of the community? What about the GLG (didn't have one this year) but there are people who attend that event every year who would never be caught dead posting on here. So they are not part of the community?

Try to keep an open mind on things and not dictate what is what, it might help.

Edit:: so you know I am not trying to be difficult, this site is what you make of it as a user and i just feel alienating does not help the cause. Anywho, i've said my peace dont want to clutter up the thread anymore.

because, to be honest, you ride rockford's shaft like nothing i've ever seen before

I understand what you are saying and it has been noted. Some of us consider this a community and this is our method of communication. Others consider this a stupid message board that they wouldn't be caught dead posting on. :tup:

 

[brock1949]

Re: McCoy Motorports

I have a McCoy/Hitech motor that has about 2-3 hours of run time thats going to be hitting the street next month or two. I had the machine work done awhile ago by the machine shop thats seperate but kinda tied into McCoy. McCoy is the speed shop Hitech does the actual machine work. Rick at Hitech did all the machine work 4 bolt splayed mains, balancing, etc etc etc and i assembled it. He only had the block for 10 days! i left for vacation out of state and when i came back it was all done. I took all the parts and block to my local machine shop (that i wanted to build it but was nearly a year behind..) and they said it was excellent work, said the finish in the cylinder walls was perfect etc. Great group of guys to deal with at Hitech.. some good ole boys that know how to build some fast $hit..

Now that being said.. I feel Nolan at Cambell and Mike at RPM are some of the leaders in the new age technology for turbo 4.3L's and turbo builds in general.. and have been some great guys to work with.

 

[BigBadSmoosh]

Re: McCoy Motorports

Do a search and I will offer you 5:1 odds that people bring them up to me before I mention them.

because as soon as they are brought up its like watching a tragic comedy, it snow balls.. sucks that a vendor has that stigma, especially when it appears as if they do some good work.

eitherway, apparently mccoy still does 4.3s.. it would be cool if they were still interested in the trucks, but it is understandable that bikes produce a much larger profit.

 

[brock1949]

Re: McCoy Motorports

You want to bash a shop.. Buddy of mine just got his S10 back from Mach performance in Mi.. He dropped it off over 2 years ago to get a 4.3L built and turbo kit installed. He is out big money.. like go buy a finished SYTY and forget about it and his truck is in peices no where near being ready to run.

Going to do damage control this weekend and i'll get some pictures etc. I guess its got eagle H beams, diamond pistons, stock crank, some vortec heads they did, stock fuel system.. no tunning, no plumbing done etc etc.. in peices.

 

[dgoodhue]

Re: McCoy Motorports

Also, this website is NOT the community. What about Hot August Nights in Reno.... all those people been around probably before you knew what a SyTy was but since they do not post they are not considered part of the community? What about the GLG (didn't have one this year) but there are people who attend that event every year who would never be caught dead posting on here. So they are not part of the community?

Like it or not syty.net is a major part of the online community. You don't have to be a syty.net member to own a syty, its their choice whether or not to participate or learn from collective knowledge gained over the years. Their are a ton lurkers on this forum. Ofcourse their are still owners who would rather read over the ITSA archives. If someone wouldn't 'be caught dead posting' on this forum, it is their problem, you can't please everyone. Some people don't do well with forum formats no matter what the forum subject is.

 

[4C FED]

Re: McCoy Motorports

I have a McCoy/Hitech motor that has about 2-3 hours of run time thats going to be hitting the street next month or two. I had the machine work done awhile ago by the machine shop thats seperate but kinda tied into McCoy. McCoy is the speed shop Hitech does the actual machine work. Rick at Hitech did all the machine work 4 bolt splayed mains, balancing, etc etc etc and i assembled it. He only had the block for 10 days! i left for vacation out of state and when i came back it was all done. I took all the parts and block to my local machine shop (that i wanted to build it but was nearly a year behind..) and they said it was excellent work, said the finish in the cylinder walls was perfect etc. Great group of guys to deal with at Hitech.. some good ole boys that know how to build some fast $hit..

Now that being said.. I feel Nolan at Cambell and Mike at RPM are some of the leaders in the new age technology for turbo 4.3L's and turbo builds in general.. and have been some great guys to work with.

Yeah, Rick did a fantastic job on my $8500 SuperAnchor, uh I mean SuperMotor. :roll:
Oh, did I say that out loud?
Just my experience, your results may vary.

 

[brock1949]

Re: McCoy Motorports

Yeah, Rick did a fantastic job on my $8500 SuperAnchor, uh I mean SuperMotor. :roll:
Oh, did I say that out loud?
Just my experience, your results may vary.

I'm looking forward to seeing what the heck he did on this poor guys truck.. He bought the s10 new.. at 10k miles he supercharged it.. powerdyne.. then someone sold him a 15lb pulley.. he tanked the motor. Then it went to Mach.. nearly 3 years later.. he has a pile of parts that looks like a s10 and some debt so high you could go rock climbing on.

 

[brock1949]

Re: McCoy Motorports

what happend with your engine ?

 

[Bump Stick]

Re: McCoy Motorports

Wow looks like I stired up a hornets nest here. I'm just trying to find what shops and vendors are out and there web sites (if they have one) so I can get some more info as I learn and adjust to this new (to me) Rare performance vehicle... I had to get away frm stans cause they are ****ing every where and damn there is a large aftermarket but every one of them is pretty much the same. F-bodies arent too much better. Those cars dont do it for me anymore. I know a SYTY is a labor of love from what yall way and I have read.

Part, machine work, and turning are the things I will be going out to get (eventually). I can do all the other work myself. As for the tuning, I know there are people ALOT better at it than me and can dial it in in a fraction of the time. I've seen a bad tune take out an engine. I would rather pay someone who knows and is good at it to do it then risk destoying an engine due to my know short chomings.

 

[Loeryder]

Re: McCoy Motorports

I think every vendor has good and bad stories behind them.
Ask around enough and you are bound to find someone who was unhappy with something.

It's the ones when people really get screwed over that we need to make sure are not forgotten.

 

[Flyin Ryan]

Re: McCoy Motorports

http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4656&highlight=mccoy+sucks

http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=46639&highlight=mccoy+heads

http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=47463&highlight=mccoy+heads

http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4651&highlight=mccoy+sucks

 

[ViciousV6]

Re: McCoy Motorports

Well I was dealing with Jerry for a few years and got comfortable to buy a "shop" motor which i told was a "steal" Drop into the truck complete pan to intake was ported to match an M & M would of got hung up on the port job. The intake gaskets were leaking, starting finding in metal in oil change after 600 miles come to find out the inner springs were breaking and busting to little pcs into the motor, never even offered to send me a new set of springs. replaced with LS1 Beehives, also had to redo seal since the inner tore the seals up. Then a year later motor expired with spun mains and 2 spun rods come to find out the block was grooved behind the main bearings limiting the amount surface fricton the bearing has on the block.

Metallic Copper Oil is awesome stuff. Took pictures and still have all his emails.

$8500 Steal, 1 year later called him told me he would work something out with all the parts needed to fix it @ his cost and called him with the list of parts and wrote down all the pricing, then called summit and for the list of parts it was $1,000 cheaper through summit to buy the parts.

Told me i needed DFI for my set-up but he was the one who had the chip burned and set-up by Brian Green for me.

So now all i deal with is local guys who build Top Notch motors and stand behind their work.

Ralph

 

[4C FED]

Re: McCoy Motorports

find out the block was grooved behind the main bearings limiting the amount surface fricton the bearing has on the block.

Yeah, that is/was one of their "secrets" to improving oilling by using a die grinder, some grinding bit and a jackass behind the grinder to create some shitty groove in the main saddle along with holes drilled through the bearings for the block to improve oilling.
Mine has it as well.:tdown:

 

[Windedv6]

Re: McCoy Motorports

Yeah, that is/was one of their "secrets" to improving oilling by using a die grinder, some grinding bit and a jackass behind the grinder to create some shitty groove in the main saddle along with holes drilled through the bearings for the block to improve oilling.
Mine has it as well.:tdown:

Most Bowtie motors come with the saddle grooves. I just purchased a virgin bowtie block recently and it had the grooves in it. You need drill a couple of side holes in the main bearings to tie into these grooves, otherwise you will create pressure behind the bearing. Both my bowties have them and they're fine. McCoy drilled the bearings correctly. McCoy built my AWD bowtie in 2001 and Waller built my TT Bowtie last year. I have pushed the McCoy motor as harder than most have on thier motors. Enough to find the limits on the Srp piston a couple of times.

I am currently in the middle of rebuilding the McCoy motor and I am impressed on how little wear is shown on the bearings. I am rebuilding because I am switching out the Eagle rods and Srp pistons to JE extreme duty pistons and Oliver rods.

John

 

[James Thomas]

Re: McCoy Motorports

My McCoy heads were junk from the get go. He farms them out and THEY did a shit job. Who do you blame? The shop that DID the work done or the shop you PAID TO HAVE THE WORK DONE?
No matter. Be careful and stick with the vendors on here that do their own work and support what few of us are left.

_______
James

 

[ViciousV6]

Re: McCoy Motorports

Most Bowtie motors come with the saddle grooves. I just purchased a virgin bowtie block recently and it had the grooves in it. You need drill a couple of side holes in the main bearings to tie into these grooves, otherwise you will create pressure behind the bearing. Both my bowties have them and they're fine. McCoy drilled the bearings correctly. McCoy built my AWD bowtie in 2001 and Waller built my TT Bowtie last year. I have pushed the McCoy motor as harder than most have on thier motors. Enough to find the limits on the Srp piston a couple of times.

I am currently in the middle of rebuilding the McCoy motor and I am impressed on how little wear is shown on the bearings. I am rebuilding because I am switching out the Eagle rods and Srp pistons to JE extreme duty pistons and Oliver rods.

John

Good to know John,

Yea i have seen pictures of the bowtie blocks with the mains channeled like that but on my motor from McCoy they didn't drill the bearing center out just the single stock hole which in that case could of been why those bearings spun in the motor. Now i have more confidents in that block may been a good rebuild canidate for a spare block or to sell.

Thanks Ralph

 

[general's servant]

Re: McCoy Motorports

I don't want to steal this thread but I am right in the middle of rebuilding one of these Mccoy built motors.I just got done plastigaged the mains so I looked to see if the mains were channeled too.Not very even in length between the mains and only 1,2&3 were done that way.Do I need to drill my new bearings(on the side?) or can they be installed as is. top main bearings have a grove and hole while the bottoms are plain.

 

[Windedv6]

Re: McCoy Motorports

I don't want to steal this thread but I am right in the middle of rebuilding one of these Mccoy built motors.I just got done plastigaged the mains so I looked to see if the mains were channeled too.Not very even in length between the mains and only 1,2&3 were done that way.Do I need to drill my new bearings(on the side?) or can they be installed as is. top main bearings have a grove and hole while the bottoms are plain.

If the block saddle is grooved you need to drill a couple of small holes on each side of the center hole. One at the end of the groove and one midpoint between the orginal center hole and the end . I have some bearings that are done this way. I will see if I can get some pics up tonight. The bearings you have are ok with the top (block bearing grooved and the bottom solid).

The grooved block saddle and the drilled bearings have been common with the circle track guys for years. It allows more oiling to the mains which gives more support to the crank under high rpms as well as extreme pressures on high hp and/or high cylinder compression uses such as turbos and NOS applications.

If your MCCoy motor had grooves in it, was the bearings you took out drilled?

John

 

[general's servant]

Re: McCoy Motorports

Bought my truck not running and in pieces so I can't say If it was the operater or this truck left Mccoy's shop this way.The previous owner the one who had Mccoy modifiy it put some serious money in this truck.The previous owner had bent #4 exh valve. (i quess trying to adjust some ticking noises) and thats how I bought it. When I pulled and disassembled the motor-three out of six flexplate bolts were loose (one chewed the threads in the crank)-turbo left compressor pieces on the tops of all left side pistons-sent the heads to my machinist, he found 4 out of 6 combustion chambers had at least one crack between the seats.My mahinist is on his second attempt to SAVE these voctec heads. Cam bearing #3 has a chunk of metal missing(looks like it was done on bearing installation) Can't blame all of this on Mccoy pesonally as I believe he most likely had someone else get their hands dirty but doesn't look good to have his name behind it! I'm sure the owner drove it like he stole it each and everyday.(evident by the turbo compressor wheel ruining the housing and being a teenager)Also overheated it alot, as it has a almost new radiator I believe this motor does not have very many miles on it.Good bore and fairly new bearings IMO.
Can't say this was a bad build just too many unknowns. :2cents:

 

[general's servant]

Re: McCoy Motorports

the bearing i took out only had the factory hole just like the replacements I have