need new style swaybar pics

Tydriver

Tydriver

TurboLS6 Powa'
Yeeeeesh, U sure thats not the ST bar ? Thats completely different than what I have on my Typhoon. That looks identical to the mickey mouse setup on the ST bar (end links attatch to a bracket VS frame rail is only difference).


Either way it appears I must have the Bastard ADDCO bar, mine fits like a champ, works quietly and like a sway bar should and looks completely different than whats posted there. Then again, I have a Ty bar not a Sy. Sumthin must be different I suppose because of gas tank location and the like.

Or, perhaps I have a Rare Addco swaybar, think that will increase the value of my truck ? :oops: Yeah ok, I didnt think so either, but what the hell, it was worth a try.
 
rockvillespeed

rockvillespeed

Member
not picking sides, but the addco and my 2" blocks were absolutely completely incompatible - the bar hit BAD ont he bumpstops.
i have the st bar on the syclone and my long bed v8 s10.
zero noise, breakage, banging or hassles in any way.
while i am a huge proponent of reducing unsprung weight, honeslty, in this case i just dont see it mattering much - the percentage tween the 2 styles in weight is near nil.
3 pounds of bar with a rearend assembly, including rolling stock and leafs, of an easy 300 punds or more, just isnt enough to sway me toward the other mounting style, when there are so many fitment issues to deal with.
 
Daron

Daron

Active member
I hope this doesnt seem like an argument that "sides" are being given or taken. I respect Todd and his opinions, just have my own to either live or die by. I think ADDCO had a great idea when they came up with a sway bar for our vehicles. Execution of that idea is less than ideal in my opinion, as my experience with the addco bar have been negative. That is not to say there are not happy customers; to change my opinion Id like to see pics of the newer bar on a Typhoon.
Daron
 
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2kwik4u

Resident slow guy
canadian said:
so does anybody have pics of the new style swaybar on a new body style truck?
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Going upstairs to get a camera now, to walk outside and take pics....gimme 10 minutes :D


BTW sorry for the delay
 
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2kwik4u

Resident slow guy
OK, hope this is what you are looking for. Truck is a '00 S-10 2WD equipped with the ZQ8 suspension option that includes the rear sway bar pictured. he truck is currently lowered in the rear with 3" blocks (yes I know springs would have been a better choice). The sway bar, it's mounts, and endlinks are 100% COMPLETELY STOCK, they have not been touched in anyway shape or form.

These are sized pics....you can see the full sized ones Here

Left Rear mounts
sway1.sized.jpg


sway5.sized.jpg


sway6.sized.jpg


Right rear mounts
sway4.sized.jpg


Forgot to rotate the pic...oops..turn head to left to view right side up
sway2.sized.jpg


Overall...kinda
sway3.sized.jpg



I agree with Todd, that unsprung weight is the devil, and should be eliminated. however I also have to agree with whoever else it was that mentioned the 5lb bar mounted to the 250lb rear end assembly, that weight is negligable on a street vehicle as far as regular weight.

When you get into the weight of wheels there is a little more to take into effect than just the weight. The weight causes some other things to happen as well, like gyroscopic effect, as well as helping/hindering acceleration/braking....So really when you talk about wheels and weight is isn't just about unsprung weight it is about that and ALOT more.

Hope those pictures helped. Shoulda seen the peoples faces walking down the street as a guy in a shirt and tie was laying under the back of a LOW truck taking pictures :D :D
 
canadian

canadian

sy in progress
I appreciate the pics. Odd that my first gen addco pointed towards the front of the truck, but these ones appear to point towards the rear.

Thanks again
 
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2kwik4u

Resident slow guy
canadian said:
I appreciate the pics. Odd that my first gen addco pointed towards the front of the truck, but these ones appear to point towards the rear.

Thanks again
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No problem, and yes these are pointing towards the rear.
 
T

truckins10

Member
Daron, Ed,
Where Ed has the endlinks mounted is different than mine. Guess thats where I went wrong. Right in front of the bumpstops you see in the picture my truck has brackets that come down from the frame about2-3inches. There was a hole in the center of this bracket that I installed the endlink bolts to. Ed did you remove that little bracket extension from the frame?? I believe their are two bolts holding it on. It would be nice if that was my problem with the bar not working with the lowered leafs. Thanks Guys. Fern Sy#477
 
ed hess

ed hess

race or get outta the way
I did not remove anything.

It basically came down to mounting them in the only position they would fit into given their length.

As you may have noticed the guy next door tack welded the brakets to the rear end housing.

ed
 
Tydriver

Tydriver

TurboLS6 Powa'
turbodog said:
I'm using stock springs on my Ty with center leaf removed. Pics:

Bar mount to frame:
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Whoa....... That looks just like my bar does... Must be a full moon, its like 2 UFO spottings in ONE NIGHT its so rare. Well, I guess that means I dont have the only bastard Addco swaybar in existence.

Hey Rick, removing the ONE spring on the middle of the leaves how much did it drop your truck ? Also, have you noticed any WINDUP or AXLE WRAP on a launch as a result from the removed spring ?
 
Daron

Daron

Active member
Tydriver said:
turbodog said:
I'm using stock springs on my Ty with center leaf removed. Pics:

Bar mount to frame:
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Whoa....... That looks just like my bar does... Must be a full moon, its like 2 UFO spottings in ONE NIGHT its so rare. Well, I guess that means I dont have the only bastard Addco swaybar in existence.

Hey Rick, removing the ONE spring on the middle of the leaves how much did it drop your truck ? Also, have you noticed any WINDUP or AXLE WRAP on a launch as a result from the removed spring ?
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framemount.jpg


Pretty much exactly how mine was. You may want to consider shorter end links to get the bar a bit more level at the ends. Otherwise that pic is just like my old school addco. That picture really demonstrates all that whole inch of clearance between the bar and spring.
 
Daron

Daron

Active member
framemount.jpg


Now that I look at that picture I can see where the e-brake cable has made a mark on the bushing mount. Sure looks like there is contact there...
 
Daron

Daron

Active member
Daron said:
framemount.jpg


Now that I look at that picture I can see where the e-brake cable has made a mark on the bushing mount. Sure looks like there is contact there...
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Turbodog, I'd bet my lunch money if you look on your spring right under where the bar comes out of the bushing, theres marks where it has been hitting the spring. If not obvious, some white shoe polish on the bottom of the bar and a few launches later, Im betting there will be some transfer to the spring.
 
turbodog

turbodog

Donating Member
So how much do you eat?

Yes, where the bar bends between the mount and the endlink, there is about 3/4 inch clearance at rest, and a small shiny spot on the swaybar from contact:
contactpoint.jpg


I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, however....
 
Daron

Daron

Active member
turbodog said:
So how much do you eat?

Yes, where the bar bends between the mount and the endlink, there is about 3/4 inch clearance at rest, and a small shiny spot on the swaybar from contact:
contactpoint.jpg


I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, however....
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I eat too much unfortunately...

Your experience is consistent with what I expected with the ADDCO and lowered leafs. While you may not lose sleep over it, I found that contact would occur under the most inopportune times, changing the spring rate and handling dramatically. As I stated earlier I think the ADDCO is a decent bar for a stock height truck, its experiences such as yours that convinces me it is the wrong tool for the job on a lowered leaf application.
 
Tydriver

Tydriver

TurboLS6 Powa'
Daron said:
I eat too much unfortunately...

Your experience is consistent with what I expected with the ADDCO and lowered leafs. While you may not lose sleep over it, I found that contact would occur under the most inopportune times, changing the spring rate and handling dramatically. As I stated earlier I think the ADDCO is a decent bar for a stock height truck, its experiences such as yours that convinces me it is the wrong tool for the job on a lowered leaf application.
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Try crawling under keith's truck sometime and take a look if you are concerned about the sway bar hitting stuff, and thats the ST bar on a STOCK ride height truck.

Again it appears that finding the right product for these trucks becomes the typical nitemare with no real good solution.
 
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