Official Racing Classes for Nats X

[Six-is-Enough]

SyTy Nationals Racing Rules 2007

Pure Stock
*Tires must be real street tires, no drag radials or stickies
* Stock style exhaust and catcon must be in place (resonator on Saudi trucks)
*Fuel pump may be replaced.
*Fuel pressure regulator may be replaced with an adjustable type
*Truck must weigh at least 3700# with driver. Ty must weigh 4000# with driver.
*Stock unported heads must be used. If L35s are on the truck, they must be unported, and the owner must provide documentation from GM that this truck was delivered with L35 heads.
*Stock GM chip only-ECM controlled boost,IC pump etc.
*Stock type intercooler pump (Jabsco/Johnson Shurflo etc.) Steel lines may be replaced with rubber. Stock upper and lower CCHE.
*All other parts not mentioned must be stock or stock type replacements
Ty gets .4 head start
SoGT's get a 3.0 head start

Stock Turbo
*Any Tire Allowed
*Stock type leaf rear suspension,No traction bars etc. Fiberglass springs,lowering blocks permitted. *Any trans *Front suspension-any
*Stall converter is permissable.
*AWD
*Stock manifolds No headers
*Stock TD06-17 turbo with stock 8cm exhaust housing
*Stock unported heads must be used. If L35s are on the truck, they must be unported, and the owner must
provide documentation from GM that this truck was delivered with L35 heads. *SyTy Intake manifold
*Engine internals, cam, etc, must all be stock. Production block with wet sump oiling.
*Stock upper intercooler, no restriction on rest of system
*Alcohol/water injection as anti-detonant permitted.
*No NOS
*Stock ECM (injector driver mods ok)
*Any chip
*Truck must weigh at least 3500# with driver, Ty must weigh 3800# with driver
*Ty gets .4 head start


*Super Stock
*Any tire allowed
*Any suspension.
*AWD
*Any exhaust
*Headers ok
*Turbo restricted to 3" inlet
*Stock or L35 unported heads. Stock size valves.
*SyTy intake manifold
*Stock style internals. Production block with wet sump oiling.
*Any camshaft
*Any intercooler mods or type
*Alcohol/water injection permitted
*NOS not allowed.
*Stock ECM (injector driver mods ok)
*Any chip
*3300# weight minimum with driver. 3600# for Ty
*Ty gets .4 head start

Top Stock (Modified)
*Any tire.
*Any suspension
*Any trans
*AWD
*Headers ok
*Turbo : anything
*Heads : GM part numbers. Any mods, Except no pontiacs or canted valve/brodix heads
* Block must have wet sump oiling, stock stroke even-fire crankshaft
*Any intercooler
*Alcohol/water injection permitted
*NOS not allowed
*3100 weight minimum (with driver) for both vehicles.
*Any ECM *Ty gets a .3 head start


Pro Stock
*Any tire.
*Any suspension
*Any trans
*AWD
*Headers ok
*Turbo : any
*Heads: any
* Anything goes for motor (90 degree v6)
*Intecooler any
*NOS allowed
*3000 weight minimum (with driver) for both vehicles.
*Any ECM *Ty gets .2 head start


Outlaw Sy/TY
Class for conversion vehicles. Must either be a motor/drivetrain conversion to a Sy/TY/So GT or a Sy/Ty motor (4.3L V6 evenfire Turbo) conversion into another vehicle for example, but not limited too:
2 wd conversion to a Pro street Syclone or wheelstanding Typhoon
Ls1 in So GT
Twin turbo small block in Sy/TY
Sy/Ty motor in to Fiero, etc.
Eligibility subject to Sy/TY Nationals committee approval


Rental/Tow/Daily Driver
*Run what ya brung! *Bracket-race format.
*This class will be ran as time allows between other classes.


There you have it. Pick your class and plan your mods. Sy/Ty Nats 2007 is going to be great!

 

[Six-is-Enough]

Re: Official Racing Classes for Nats X

I will go on record first with my picks for nats:

PURE STOCK: Christina Keller.

She will be out for blood after her red light in 2005 and missing 2006 for child birth. Look for the Keller Klan to be in the mid 13's with their sweet Aspen blue Ty. Of course Sonoma GT's are now eligible to race in Pure Stock. Will any Show? Can they take down their Sy/TY brothern?

STOCK TURBO: Jeremy Duncan

Got to go with myself here sorry. After firing my driver in 2004 after a disappointing runner up finish, I have won Stock Turbo the past 2 years in my Syclone. I will be shooting to run the first 11.xx time for this class at the Nats 2007 and defend my title.

Super Stock: Josh "Tooky" Straub

Won his first Nationals title on a hole shot this year in his Syclone. I look for him to be a major player in this class next year. He ran consistent low 12's, high 11's last year. I look for him to run even faster in 07.

Top Stock: Mike HARDman

You got to have one long shot sleeper in your picks and this is mine! With super tuner Mike Dollbrick on his side look for ET's to really improve. I fully expect mid 11's from Milke's TY. Of course if Denny Raab shows up I reserve my right to change my pick.:tup:

Pro Stock: Bully Syclone

Alot of intresting trucks out there in this class, but they for some reason don't show up. I think John and his crew will show to redeem their self from last years disappointment. Are 9's or even 8's possible?


Outlaw: Jeff Scott

The new Conversion class. Ok this kind of a long shot too. But if he shows up( or will any?) with his Twin Turbo GT35 V8 AWD Typhoon watch out. The odds are long that he will finish it since his recent case of OBP. Here is to hope.:tup:


There are my picks. Rember they were made in fun, not to make fun of. Flame away.

 

[warmpancakes]

Re: Official Racing Classes for Nats X

Just out of curiousity how do they prove this?

"Stock unported heads must be used. If L35s are on the truck, they must be unported, and the owner must provide documentation from GM that this truck was delivered with L35 heads."


there is way too much grey area in those rules. Go to the dealer today and order a replacement head for a syclone and you will get a L-35

 

[warmpancakes]

Re: Official Racing Classes for Nats X

Heads : GM part numbers Any mods but no pontiacs or canted valve/brodix

Pontiac heads have a GM part number are they allowed

 

[Six-is-Enough]

Re: Official Racing Classes for Nats X

Just out of curiousity how do they prove this?

"Stock unported heads must be used. If L35s are on the truck, they must be unported, and the owner must provide documentation from GM that this truck was delivered with L35 heads."


there is way too much grey area in those rules. Go to the dealer today and order a replacement head for a syclone and you will get a L-35

I didn't write this part of the rules, but I would guess a warranty swapped engine with L35 heads and paper documentation would fit. Also truck could run Super Stock with L35 heads. Sy/TY Owners would just have to be careful to get a LB4 head if changing heads and wanting to run Stock turbo or Pure Stock. You can get LB4 castings cheap and easy. For example from a junk yard or Sy/ty.net members have them for sale all the time. In fact there are two sets setting in Jeff Scotts garage right now.

Most people swap to a L35 for a performance gain over the LB4, thats why they are not allowed except under certain circumstances ( documentation).

 

[Six-is-Enough]

Re: Official Racing Classes for Nats X

Heads : GM part numbers Any mods but no pontiacs or canted valve/brodix

Pontiac heads have a GM part number are they allowed

This one is easy. NO.

The first part of the sentence OK's GM part #'s, the second part states exceptions Pontiac heads not allowed in this class.

 

[Six-is-Enough]

Re: Official Racing Classes for Nats X

Heads : GM part numbers Any mods but no pontiacs or canted valve/brodix

Pontiac heads have a GM part number are they allowed

I cleared up the language for you in the rules, pertaining to pontiac heads in Top Stock.:tup:

I hope to see you at Nats X.

Is the Sy/TY Homecoming using similar classifications as the Sy/TY nats?

 

[warmpancakes]

Re: Official Racing Classes for Nats X

I cleared up the language for you in the rules, pertaining to pontiac heads in Top Stock.:tup:

I hope to see you at Nats X.

Is the Sy/TY Homecoming using similar classifications as the Sy/TY nats?

Havent decided, that still up in the air

 

[myclone]

Re: Official Racing Classes for Nats X

Why not allow N20 in top stock? Might make things a little interesting .

 

[Six-is-Enough]

Re: Official Racing Classes for Nats X

Why not allow N20 in top stock? Might make things a little interesting .

Too many track oil down clean ups.:lol:

 

[JKsSyclone]

Re: Official Racing Classes for Nats X

I will go on record first with my picks for nats:

PURE STOCK: ChristinA Keller.

She will be out for blood after her red light in 2005 and missing 2006 for child birth. Look for the Keller Klan to be in the mid 13's with their sweet Aspen blue Ty.

As long as the factory tranny holds up. :roll: :lol: It would be a looong trip home if it didnt.

 

[Six-is-Enough]

Re: Official Racing Classes for Nats X

As long as the factory tranny holds up. :roll: :lol: It would be a looong trip home if it didnt.

You could always catch a ride with Jimmy....


PS Sorry about the "e". Please excuse.

 

[SyTyJedi]

Re: Official Racing Classes for Nats X

So I would be in the Outlaw class if I came with the V8 LS1 right? Anyone else planning on running in this class?

 

[Silly]

Re: Official Racing Classes for Nats X

So I would be in the Outlaw class if I came with the V8 LS1 right? Anyone else planning on running in this class?

I believe I would be. Although I would be at a major disadvantage right off the bat because of cubes. But its all in good fun i suppose.

 

[Six-is-Enough]

Re: Official Racing Classes for Nats X

So I would be in the Outlaw class if I came with the V8 LS1 right? Anyone else planning on running in this class?[/QUOTE


10-4- good buddy.


No other confirmed outlaw participants yet. A few are hoping and planning.

BTW How fast is your truck? Or how fast do you expect it to be?

 

[Silly]

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Well I can not confirm something almost a year away, but you can mark me down, even if I am not able to attend I will be making sure the truck is there and making passes.

I do not want to start anything or open a can of worms or whatever, but if you are allowing various sized engines in the outlaw class there should be some regulations dont you think? I mean my 279ci going up against a 502bbc just isn't fair. Just an idea.

 

[warmpancakes]

Re: Official Racing Classes for Nats X

Well I can not confirm something almost a year away, but you can mark me down, even if I am not able to attend I will be making sure the truck is there and making passes.

I do not want to start anything or open a can of worms or whatever, but if you are allowing various sized engines in the outlaw class there should be some regulations dont you think? I mean my 279ci going up against a 502bbc just isn't fair. Just an idea.

Im sure we can give the BBC guy a car length or 2 :tup:

 

[Six-is-Enough]

Re: Official Racing Classes for Nats X

I do not want to start anything or open a can of worms or whatever, but if you are allowing various sized engines in the outlaw class there should be some regulations dont you think? I mean my 279ci going up against a 502bbc just isn't fair. Just an idea.

If the class takes off in popularity it could be discussed. But for right now run what ya brung and hope ya brung enough. As long as it fits the rules*

Just to get a Idea at how fast the outlaw vehicles are going to be what are your best times?

 

[Six-is-Enough]

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And rember until Nats 2007 there was no class at all! You had to run tow rental class.

 

[Silly]

Re: Official Racing Classes for Nats X

If the class takes off in popularity it could be discussed. But for right now run what ya brung and hope ya brung enough. As long as it fits the rules*

Just to get a Idea at how fast the outlaw vehicles are going to be what are your best times?

I hear ya hope it takes off, like i said all in good fun.

I haven't ran anytime yet, haven't even driven the truck but will be firing up the motor on saturday. I should have the video up by Monday.