race engine
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alwayswantedone
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Re: race engine
Didn't you also have a maxima with a gn motor is it also?UR50SLO said:
skwayb
NWSTP
Re: race engine
Not running a 5" DP.. are you crazy... I have a 3" Jeff made for me with the Flapper built into the flange. just saying you could run one if you so wanted :-b.
I will have pictures of my progress soon once I get the housing and the DP back from being coated.
MAITAI1993 said:
Not running a 5" DP.. are you crazy... I have a 3" Jeff made for me with the Flapper built into the flange. just saying you could run one if you so wanted :-b.
I will have pictures of my progress soon once I get the housing and the DP back from being coated.
UR50SLO
V6+2=LSXCamaro
Re: race engine
Nope....
It's the stock Maxima engine in it with 224,000 orginal miles. (3.0L V6)
I put a GN style turbo on it (TA49). Made all the pipeing ect. Used a stock GN intercooler and put it up front with differerent inlet/outlets. Pocket Romulator for tuning with Live Edit (basic Nissan hack program for 300z's)
With the old downpipe and tune it went 13.40@107mph. I get 22mpg in town and 28mpg on the highway. Fun daily driver.
~Scott
alwayswantedone said:
Nope....
It's the stock Maxima engine in it with 224,000 orginal miles. (3.0L V6)
I put a GN style turbo on it (TA49). Made all the pipeing ect. Used a stock GN intercooler and put it up front with differerent inlet/outlets. Pocket Romulator for tuning with Live Edit (basic Nissan hack program for 300z's)
With the old downpipe and tune it went 13.40@107mph. I get 22mpg in town and 28mpg on the highway. Fun daily driver.
~Scott
Re: race engine
Depending on what you're looking to do, the 4.3L versus the 3.8 is an interesting debate. Here's my objective take on it:
Heads-Vortecs availible for the 4.3L, modern chambers good flow characteristics and larger valves when compared to the stocker Buick heads. Otherwise you're running ported stockers or GN1Rs. Brodix -8 and -10 heads are availible for the 4.3L if you're lookin for crazy power. Price/$ winner:4.3L
Displacement-Cubes do help. Winner:4.3L
Intakes-Getting a good port fuel injection intake for a 4.3L is a PITA, short of getting a rare/expensive Sy/Ty intake or converting something. Winner:3.8L
Rods-4.3L rods are nowhere near as nicely engineered as buick rods. If you look at them, you can tell that the Buicks are quality. Expect to buy some H-beams for making a good bit of power with a 4.3L reliably, and the SBC rods do not work. Winner:3.8L
Pistons:4.3Ls use SBC pistons and rings, perhaps the easiest item to get and a shelf item none the less. The Buick stuff is a shelf item, but at the same time nowhere near the selection of the Chevies. Winner:4.3L
Engine Management:the 4.3L uses a Speed Density system with probably one of the best documented factory ECUs out there. The Buicks have a huge aftermarket of chips, and a 1227749 box from the Syclones/Typhhons will retrofit into the 3.8L Buicks. Winnerush.
Cam:A 4.3L is a roller motor stock, the Buick 3.8L needs expensive retrofit parts and are known for having some issues with cams and eating the #3 exhaust lobe. Winner:4.3L.
In the end, I think that both motors would be fairly similar cost if you're doing a built short block, but if you have cheap machine shop time to do a modified or custom intake the 4.3L would come out on top.
Depending on what you're looking to do, the 4.3L versus the 3.8 is an interesting debate. Here's my objective take on it:
Heads-Vortecs availible for the 4.3L, modern chambers good flow characteristics and larger valves when compared to the stocker Buick heads. Otherwise you're running ported stockers or GN1Rs. Brodix -8 and -10 heads are availible for the 4.3L if you're lookin for crazy power. Price/$ winner:4.3L
Displacement-Cubes do help. Winner:4.3L
Intakes-Getting a good port fuel injection intake for a 4.3L is a PITA, short of getting a rare/expensive Sy/Ty intake or converting something. Winner:3.8L
Rods-4.3L rods are nowhere near as nicely engineered as buick rods. If you look at them, you can tell that the Buicks are quality. Expect to buy some H-beams for making a good bit of power with a 4.3L reliably, and the SBC rods do not work. Winner:3.8L
Pistons:4.3Ls use SBC pistons and rings, perhaps the easiest item to get and a shelf item none the less. The Buick stuff is a shelf item, but at the same time nowhere near the selection of the Chevies. Winner:4.3L
Engine Management:the 4.3L uses a Speed Density system with probably one of the best documented factory ECUs out there. The Buicks have a huge aftermarket of chips, and a 1227749 box from the Syclones/Typhhons will retrofit into the 3.8L Buicks. Winner
ush.Cam:A 4.3L is a roller motor stock, the Buick 3.8L needs expensive retrofit parts and are known for having some issues with cams and eating the #3 exhaust lobe. Winner:4.3L.
In the end, I think that both motors would be fairly similar cost if you're doing a built short block, but if you have cheap machine shop time to do a modified or custom intake the 4.3L would come out on top.
Syclone#1992
SyTy.net Moderator
Re: race engine
You could put your PAS sign on the front and people would think it was a proto type :rotf:
smaug said:
You could put your PAS sign on the front and people would think it was a proto type :rotf:
Raist103
Engine Killer, iPhone Killer, Lawnmower Killer
Re: race engine
i have a extra one i was going to do in the ty if i did not do the ls1
oh and DONT NOT do a 4.3 in a gn my 3.8 went 11.2 with a stock motor just bolt ons. i can get 10s if i push it harder. just get a 109 block and a gridle and it will handle 9s without a problem.
i have a extra one i was going to do in the ty if i did not do the ls1
smaug said:
oh and DONT NOT do a 4.3 in a gn my 3.8 went 11.2 with a stock motor just bolt ons. i can get 10s if i push it harder. just get a 109 block and a gridle and it will handle 9s without a problem.
Re: race engine
Was that the old 232 motor? I am sure I have a block laying wround here with internals.
Hmmm??? Anyone want to experiment? You pick it up and it's yours.
Was that the old 232 motor? I am sure I have a block laying wround here with internals.
Hmmm??? Anyone want to experiment? You pick it up and it's yours.
UR50SLO
V6+2=LSXCamaro
Re: race engine
The TA block is nice... It's about 3800.00 and needs ALOT of final machiene work. I doubt you'll spend near that on a budget stock (109) block. If your looking to make big buick V6 power there's no doubt that'd be a great choice. And it weighs 80lbs DOH!
I think I'll still find a stage 2 block for next year on the Camaro. And a fresh set of ported GN1 heads.
I'll still have 10,000 in the stage 2 build as a rough estimate. That's just the long block!
~Scott
The TA block is nice... It's about 3800.00 and needs ALOT of final machiene work. I doubt you'll spend near that on a budget stock (109) block. If your looking to make big buick V6 power there's no doubt that'd be a great choice. And it weighs 80lbs DOH!
I think I'll still find a stage 2 block for next year on the Camaro. And a fresh set of ported GN1 heads.
I'll still have 10,000 in the stage 2 build as a rough estimate. That's just the long block!
~Scott
Raist103
Engine Killer, iPhone Killer, Lawnmower Killer
Re: race engine
i a have a way to get my hands on a stage 2 block all it needs is a eagle crank $700 and a cam of your making $300 or so. gn1s and intake and all just needs to be put together. i can get it pretty cheap there is probably 10+k in it. in case anyone wanted it. it is at billy andersons in md right now he checked it out and was going to put it together for a friend but he just went and bought another stage2 car and may be picking up another.
btw champion is coming out with a new block for the 3.8 which is going to be much much better then the ta block.
i a have a way to get my hands on a stage 2 block all it needs is a eagle crank $700 and a cam of your making $300 or so. gn1s and intake and all just needs to be put together. i can get it pretty cheap there is probably 10+k in it. in case anyone wanted it. it is at billy andersons in md right now he checked it out and was going to put it together for a friend but he just went and bought another stage2 car and may be picking up another.
btw champion is coming out with a new block for the 3.8 which is going to be much much better then the ta block.
UR50SLO
V6+2=LSXCamaro
Re: race engine
Send me a e-mail on the Stage block. If it's not sleeved and beat to death I'd be interested in it. I'm going hyd. roller with the cam in that block. Solid may make a few extra hp. but i'll take the ease of setting lash one time for this car.
I was told to wait till Champion came out with thier iron block but It may be awhile.
Send me a e-mail with price on the block when you can!
Thanks,
Scott~
(UR50SLO@aol.com)
Send me a e-mail on the Stage block. If it's not sleeved and beat to death I'd be interested in it. I'm going hyd. roller with the cam in that block. Solid may make a few extra hp. but i'll take the ease of setting lash one time for this car.
I was told to wait till Champion came out with thier iron block but It may be awhile.
Send me a e-mail with price on the block when you can!
Thanks,
Scott~
(UR50SLO@aol.com)