Captain Morgan
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Re: sell the sy and get a ty?
Sell the Sy, buy a Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-8
Sell the Sy, buy a Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-8
sell the sy and get a ty?
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Junior1
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Re: sell the sy and get a ty?
Get want you wanted originally...Sell the Sy and buy the Ty. There's a Green one n the "for sale" section. Low miles, unmolested, and reasonable price. Most important, no roof rack.
Side note: :rant: someone please buy that guys mom's green Ty. Wifey will take my kids and leave if I buy another one as a daily driver :rotf:
Get want you wanted originally...Sell the Sy and buy the Ty. There's a Green one n the "for sale" section. Low miles, unmolested, and reasonable price. Most important, no roof rack.
Side note: :rant: someone please buy that guys mom's green Ty. Wifey will take my kids and leave if I buy another one as a daily driver :rotf:
steve-o
Member
Re: sell the sy and get a ty?
I say go with what you wanted in the first place, a Ty. I rememeber you talking about it a few years ago... how you wanted one, but settled for what you have. Since you seem to be in a comfortable position to, just do it.
If you get a Typhoon, you won't have to worry about taking a tent when you go CAMPING!! Fold down the back seat, lay out your air mattress and sleeping bag... you're set. If you get cold, just start it up and run the heater.
Mammoth Lakes. Sept'03
Pismo Beach. Aug'05 - AWD really came in handy here.
I say go with what you wanted in the first place, a Ty. I rememeber you talking about it a few years ago... how you wanted one, but settled for what you have. Since you seem to be in a comfortable position to, just do it.
If you get a Typhoon, you won't have to worry about taking a tent when you go CAMPING!! Fold down the back seat, lay out your air mattress and sleeping bag... you're set. If you get cold, just start it up and run the heater.
Mammoth Lakes. Sept'03
Pismo Beach. Aug'05 - AWD really came in handy here.
Mephisto
These trucks are cursed
Re: sell the sy and get a ty?
thanks for all of the responses and advice...
this is obviously a tough decision...
my sy needs quite a bit of work for me to be happy with it. what makes me hesistant about selling it, is fear of buying someone elses ty with problems. at least with my sy i know everything thats wrong with it and what needs to be done to fix it, plus its got a new paint job...
on the other hand i could wait and find a lower mileage ty with little to no problems, but those are usually quite a bit more money... e.g. the green/gry in the classifieds for 18,500k and the red/red for 21k... and i'd still have to dump some cash into it to make it faster, stock is no fun. so to do something like that, id have to pay off my daily driver first. which wont be for at least another year +.
I own my sy and make no payments, its not really costing me any money to keep it. my insurance is actually lower with the sy on my policy than without it, so its actually saving me money.
if i got 10k for my sy, the probability of finding a ty for 10k thats in good shape (paint, interior, engine, tranny, miles etc) is highly unlikely, and like earlier stated the rattles and squeaks would drive me crazy.
so i guess i need to figure out what its going to cost me to get my sy to where i'll be happy with it, and go from there... im guessing somewhere around 6grand
thanks for all of the responses and advice...
this is obviously a tough decision...
my sy needs quite a bit of work for me to be happy with it. what makes me hesistant about selling it, is fear of buying someone elses ty with problems. at least with my sy i know everything thats wrong with it and what needs to be done to fix it, plus its got a new paint job...
on the other hand i could wait and find a lower mileage ty with little to no problems, but those are usually quite a bit more money... e.g. the green/gry in the classifieds for 18,500k and the red/red for 21k... and i'd still have to dump some cash into it to make it faster, stock is no fun. so to do something like that, id have to pay off my daily driver first. which wont be for at least another year +.
I own my sy and make no payments, its not really costing me any money to keep it. my insurance is actually lower with the sy on my policy than without it, so its actually saving me money.
if i got 10k for my sy, the probability of finding a ty for 10k thats in good shape (paint, interior, engine, tranny, miles etc) is highly unlikely, and like earlier stated the rattles and squeaks would drive me crazy.
so i guess i need to figure out what its going to cost me to get my sy to where i'll be happy with it, and go from there... im guessing somewhere around 6grand
Mephisto
These trucks are cursed
Re: sell the sy and get a ty?
haha you wont ever get me out to pismo ever again... i rolled my blazer there about 6 years ago... helpful hint... dont go to pismo after its rained. never been back since.
steve-o said:I say go with what you wanted in the first place, a Ty. I rememeber you talking about it a few years ago... how you wanted one, but settled for what you have. Since you seem to be in a comfortable position to, just do it.
If you get a Typhoon, you won't have to worry about taking a tent when you go CAMPING!! Fold down the back seat, lay out your air mattress and sleeping bag... you're set. If you get cold, just start it up and run the heater.
Mammoth Lakes. Sept'03
Pismo Beach. Aug'05 - AWD really came in handy here.
haha you wont ever get me out to pismo ever again... i rolled my blazer there about 6 years ago... helpful hint... dont go to pismo after its rained. never been back since.
Re: sell the sy and get a ty?
I say if you want a Ty, get a Ty. The question is, do you daily drive your Sy now? The Ty makes a better daily driver, but the Sy will always be quicker. It looks like the market for sy/ty's is really soft now, and you can get a good ty for not that much $$$ these days. I may know of a Black/Black 93 with no roof rack going up for sale in Utah very soon.
I say if you want a Ty, get a Ty. The question is, do you daily drive your Sy now? The Ty makes a better daily driver, but the Sy will always be quicker. It looks like the market for sy/ty's is really soft now, and you can get a good ty for not that much $$$ these days. I may know of a Black/Black 93 with no roof rack going up for sale in Utah very soon.
Mephisto
These trucks are cursed
Re: sell the sy and get a ty?
well this has now just become an easy decision...
i just talked to my friend who wants to buy my syclone, and he just spent a bunch of cash putting a new motor in his cobra... ........... ........yeah, i dont know why either :lol:
so unless he sells his POS horse snake, he doesnt have any money to buy my truck... so I'm taking that as a sign to keep my Sy right now. But i definitely see a ty is in my future, its just a matter of when...
thanks for all the votes and advice!
well this has now just become an easy decision...
i just talked to my friend who wants to buy my syclone, and he just spent a bunch of cash putting a new motor in his cobra... ........... ........yeah, i dont know why either :lol:
so unless he sells his POS horse snake, he doesnt have any money to buy my truck... so I'm taking that as a sign to keep my Sy right now. But i definitely see a ty is in my future, its just a matter of when...
thanks for all the votes and advice!
VermontTy
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Re: sell the sy and get a ty?
I'll never, for the life of me, figure out why someone would be willing to pay so much more for a low mileage truck with no defects, instead of spending the maybe $2k to make a higher mileage truck MINT. Sure, if its a rattle trap shitbox, that's one thing, but if its a clean, tight truck that just happens to have some saddle time on it, that's a whole other story. Take mine for example.....a beautiful drivers seat, a uncracked dash from a junkyard, some paint on the cladding, and an A/C retrofit, (what, maybe $1,500 total investment?), and you wouldn't be able to tell it from a 30k mile truck.
666 Sothis 666 said:
I'll never, for the life of me, figure out why someone would be willing to pay so much more for a low mileage truck with no defects, instead of spending the maybe $2k to make a higher mileage truck MINT. Sure, if its a rattle trap shitbox, that's one thing, but if its a clean, tight truck that just happens to have some saddle time on it, that's a whole other story. Take mine for example.....a beautiful drivers seat, a uncracked dash from a junkyard, some paint on the cladding, and an A/C retrofit, (what, maybe $1,500 total investment?), and you wouldn't be able to tell it from a 30k mile truck.
Junior1
NASTE Member
Re: sell the sy and get a ty?
"and you wouldn't be able to tell it from a 30k mile truck" - maybe not...unless you are the guy driving it. That alone means everything to me
"dash from a junkyard"...no thanks
IMO low mileage on these trucks means alot. The same for wear and tear. As tempermental as these trucks are, why take the chance on someone elses headache, you'll only end up spending the same amount in the long run.
If you don't have the bank roll to go after the perfect truck then fine, get what suits your budget and needs.
If you're building a project truck, fine
If you're doing a rebuild or put-together, fine
But if your lookin to collect something, then you gotta go after the perfect specimen.
Its not like you see Ferrari's and Lambo's goin off at auctions for high-dollars with Maaco repaints and junkyard parts.
Not that you buy a Ty for the resale value, but low miled, no mods and untouched paint is more sought after no matter what the vehicle.
We can agree to disagree on this subject, cause I'm not lookin to change your mind and you won't change my mind. IMO both arguments are justified, which is why there is a market for these trucks. You can spend 25-30k for a primo low miled truck. You can spend 15-20k for a very nice mid miled truck or 10-15k for a nice high miled truck. Either way you are lookin at close to 5 grand to go up a level or down a level
VermontTy said:
I'll never, for the life of me, figure out why someone would be willing to pay so much more for a low mileage truck with no defects, instead of spending the maybe $2k to make a higher mileage truck MINT. Sure, if its a rattle trap shitbox, that's one thing, but if its a clean, tight truck that just happens to have some saddle time on it, that's a whole other story. Take mine for example.....a beautiful drivers seat, a uncracked dash from a junkyard, some paint on the cladding, and an A/C retrofit, (what, maybe $1,500 total investment?), and you wouldn't be able to tell it from a 30k mile truck.
"and you wouldn't be able to tell it from a 30k mile truck" - maybe not...unless you are the guy driving it. That alone means everything to me
"dash from a junkyard"...no thanks
IMO low mileage on these trucks means alot. The same for wear and tear. As tempermental as these trucks are, why take the chance on someone elses headache, you'll only end up spending the same amount in the long run.
If you don't have the bank roll to go after the perfect truck then fine, get what suits your budget and needs.
If you're building a project truck, fine
If you're doing a rebuild or put-together, fine
But if your lookin to collect something, then you gotta go after the perfect specimen.
Its not like you see Ferrari's and Lambo's goin off at auctions for high-dollars with Maaco repaints and junkyard parts.
Not that you buy a Ty for the resale value, but low miled, no mods and untouched paint is more sought after no matter what the vehicle.
We can agree to disagree on this subject, cause I'm not lookin to change your mind and you won't change my mind. IMO both arguments are justified, which is why there is a market for these trucks. You can spend 25-30k for a primo low miled truck. You can spend 15-20k for a very nice mid miled truck or 10-15k for a nice high miled truck. Either way you are lookin at close to 5 grand to go up a level or down a level
mattw
Active member
Re: sell the sy and get a ty?
I completely disagree with you.. With these trucks mileage means nothing.. Doesn't matter if its got 5000 or 100,000 miles... You will end up:
replacing transmission
replacing ball joints
searching for and fixing sqeaks and rattles
diagnosing and fixing ignition problems
etc.. the list goes on and on..
I'd much rather save my money, get a high mileage truck, fix it up and end up with something just as nice(and much cheaper) in the long run...
Also, as soon as you put some miles on a low mile sy/ty its value starts to fall quickly.. If it had higher miles to start the value would not fall nearly as quickly..
-Matt
Junior1 said:
I completely disagree with you.. With these trucks mileage means nothing.. Doesn't matter if its got 5000 or 100,000 miles... You will end up:
replacing transmission
replacing ball joints
searching for and fixing sqeaks and rattles
diagnosing and fixing ignition problems
etc.. the list goes on and on..
I'd much rather save my money, get a high mileage truck, fix it up and end up with something just as nice(and much cheaper) in the long run...
Also, as soon as you put some miles on a low mile sy/ty its value starts to fall quickly.. If it had higher miles to start the value would not fall nearly as quickly..
-Matt
Junior1
NASTE Member
Re: sell the sy and get a ty?
"mileage means nothing".The BIG difference between 5000 miles and 100,000 miles is compression.
Add up parts, time, labor and aggravation of that list above and you're gonna be near 5k extra anyways.
Mine does have 5000 miles on it and no I don't have to do any of the above, eventually maybe. But thats determined by my OWN actions, by the way I drive it, not someone elses.
Like I said before, depending on your budget and needs or goal for the truck should help determine where in the spectrum you buy.
OK....but depending on where in that spectrum you buy, determines how fast or how soon you'll need the money to replace it all.mattw said:
"mileage means nothing".The BIG difference between 5000 miles and 100,000 miles is compression.
Add up parts, time, labor and aggravation of that list above and you're gonna be near 5k extra anyways.
Mine does have 5000 miles on it and no I don't have to do any of the above, eventually maybe. But thats determined by my OWN actions, by the way I drive it, not someone elses.
Like I said before, depending on your budget and needs or goal for the truck should help determine where in the spectrum you buy.
Mephisto
These trucks are cursed
Re: sell the sy and get a ty?
both of you are bringing up valid points... and really the only way to tell is to drive the truck.
we've all seen that post, with the low mileage white ty going for 10k err whatever... sure its low mileage but its also a POS... before i bought my sy i went and drove a 93 ty with 27k on it... they guy was on his 2nd motor and 3rd tranny. it really just comes down to the previous owner and how well they took care of the truck.
with a lower mileage truck, you wont have to replace most of the typical S series parts right away... this is a generalization, but a taken care of truck with 40k is less likely to need new ball joints, new axles, new bushings, and every other typical s-series maintenance problem a higher mileage truck is going to have... now youre gonna say, yes neal thats true, but a truck with 40k costs more than a truck with 100k and the difference in price you could just replace all those parts that are broken. this is true, but what's the point of taking the time to do it, if you dont have to?
generally with a low mileage truck i dont have take the time to replace all that shit myself, and i dont have to pay some asshole that shouldnt be working on a lawn mower to do the work either. id rather pay another couple grand to not have to worry about that, and be able to focus on what upgrades im gonna do to make it faster.
thats pretty much my opinion... im not saying its fact or gospel, just my opinion.
both of you are bringing up valid points... and really the only way to tell is to drive the truck.
we've all seen that post, with the low mileage white ty going for 10k err whatever... sure its low mileage but its also a POS... before i bought my sy i went and drove a 93 ty with 27k on it... they guy was on his 2nd motor and 3rd tranny. it really just comes down to the previous owner and how well they took care of the truck.
with a lower mileage truck, you wont have to replace most of the typical S series parts right away... this is a generalization, but a taken care of truck with 40k is less likely to need new ball joints, new axles, new bushings, and every other typical s-series maintenance problem a higher mileage truck is going to have... now youre gonna say, yes neal thats true, but a truck with 40k costs more than a truck with 100k and the difference in price you could just replace all those parts that are broken. this is true, but what's the point of taking the time to do it, if you dont have to?
generally with a low mileage truck i dont have take the time to replace all that shit myself, and i dont have to pay some asshole that shouldnt be working on a lawn mower to do the work either. id rather pay another couple grand to not have to worry about that, and be able to focus on what upgrades im gonna do to make it faster.
thats pretty much my opinion... im not saying its fact or gospel, just my opinion.