STOCK HEADS - possible power level ?

Hi guys!

Who knows - what MAX-level of power(HP) is possible at STOCK-HEADS typhoon/cyclone engine?
( Turbo setup & intercooler is performance, also is possible with Methanol injection)

If it is possible, specify ET 1/4mile, if it is known.

Thank beforehand.
 

Don W.

Stab it and steer it
Re: STOCK HEADS - possible power level ?

With the below mods I've done 13 flat @ 103. Quite a few folks have done better. Notice I have stock intake (Except for K&N.), turbo, exhaust, tranny and tires.
 

jjorgensen52

NHSTE - I'm the only one!
Re: STOCK HEADS - possible power level ?

Divette said:
Hi guys!

Who knows - what MAX-level of power(HP) is possible at STOCK-HEADS typhoon/cyclone engine?
( Turbo setup & intercooler is performance, also is possible with Methanol injection)

If it is possible, specify ET 1/4mile, if it is known.

Thank beforehand.
The stock turbo stock engine record is down to 11.94 in the 1/4
http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=42663&highlight=stock+turbo+record

I'd wager that truck is making mid 300's for horsepower. I think the stock heads can be pushed into the low 400's with a lot of work, but even L35 heads are a better alternative
 
Re: STOCK HEADS - possible power level ?

jjorgensen52 said:
The stock turbo stock engine record is down to 11.94 in the 1/4
http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=42663&highlight=stock+turbo+record

I'd wager that truck is making mid 300's for horsepower. I think the stock heads can be pushed into the low 400's with a lot of work, but even L35 heads are a better alternative


NO.
You not correctly me understood

STOCK HEADS only!!! + Super Turbo + Performance Intake + F.A.S.T. or DFI or "super-chip 3-bar" + all performance parts.........but STOCK HEADS!

power record?
ET record?
 

jjorgensen52

NHSTE - I'm the only one!
Re: STOCK HEADS - possible power level ?

Divette said:
NO.
You not correctly me understood

STOCK HEADS only!!! + Super Turbo + Performance Intake + F.A.S.T. or DFI or "super-chip 3-bar" + all performance parts.........but STOCK HEADS!

power record?
ET record?

Ah, I see. It seems to me that a lot of people upgrade or modify their heads before they upgrade other stuff because the heads are a pretty weak link in the setup. As I said, I think they can be pushed a little over 400 if you port them and so on... the 11.94 was set by a truck with stock heads... never even been opened up
 
Re: STOCK HEADS - possible power level ?

jjorgensen52 said:
Ah, I see. It seems to me that a lot of people upgrade or modify their heads before they upgrade other stuff because the heads are a pretty weak link in the setup. As I said, I think they can be pushed a little over 400 if you port them and so on... the 11.94 was set by a truck with stock heads... never even been opened up

Well....
Then a sight here -

1. http://www.dragtimes.com/GMC-Typhoon-Timeslip-765.html
GMC Typhoon 4.3 V6 + Performance Turbo
(3800lbs+driver+fuel) =600+hp ON STOCK ENGINE!!! (ET=10.7sec 1/4mile)

2. http://www.dragtimes.com/GMC-Syclone-Timeslip-2133.html
GMC Cyclon 272ci V6 STOCK + PerformanceTurbo
((3800lbs+driver+fuel) =650+hp (ET=10.4sec 1/4mile)

3. http://www.dragtimes.com/Buick-Grand-National-Timeslip-2405.html
Buick GNX (266cid) 4.3 V6 w/ UNPORTED stock HEADS!!!! + Perf. Turbo
(3545lbs+driver+fuel) =750+HP (ET=9.9sec 1/4mile)

(HP calculated by Dragtimes built-in calculator)

That tell on it?
 

jjorgensen52

NHSTE - I'm the only one!
Re: STOCK HEADS - possible power level ?

Divette said:
Well....
Then a sight here -

1. http://www.dragtimes.com/GMC-Typhoon-Timeslip-765.html
GMC Typhoon 4.3 V6 + Performance Turbo
(3800lbs+driver+fuel) =600+hp ON STOCK ENGINE!!! (ET=10.7sec 1/4mile)

2. http://www.dragtimes.com/GMC-Syclone-Timeslip-2133.html
GMC Cyclon 272ci V6 STOCK + PerformanceTurbo
((3800lbs+driver+fuel) =650+hp (ET=10.4sec 1/4mile)

3. http://www.dragtimes.com/Buick-Grand-National-Timeslip-2405.html
Buick GNX (266cid) 4.3 V6 w/ UNPORTED stock HEADS!!!! + Perf. Turbo
(3545lbs+driver+fuel) =750+HP (ET=9.9sec 1/4mile)

(HP calculated by Dragtimes built-in calculator)

That tell on it?

GN's can't compare... they had a much better engine to start with. I'm just speaking from what I've seen
 

It's just a six

Super Member
Re: STOCK HEADS - possible power level ?

jjorgensen52 said:
The stock turbo stock engine record is down to 11.94 in the 1/4
http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=42663&highlight=stock+turbo+record

I'd wager that truck is making mid 300's for horsepower. I think the stock heads can be pushed into the low 400's with a lot of work, but even L35 heads are a better alternative

He said he dynoed it & made 320 HP, Mine made 386 HP & 550 FT lbs torque. Completely 100% stock long block.
 

ghettosled

SYTY SUPERSTORE
Re: STOCK HEADS - possible power level ?

i have seen a stock headed truck make over 500rwhp and runs 10s.. big turbo, with some work to the factory castings.. but you have to ask yourself why? unported vortecs will flow and make more power then a decently set up set of stock LB4's or L35s.
 
Re: STOCK HEADS - possible power level ?

ghettosled said:
i have seen a stock headed truck make over 500rwhp and runs 10s.. big turbo, with some work to the factory castings.. but you have to ask yourself why? unported vortecs will flow and make more power then a decently set up set of stock LB4's or L35s.

this car (when you seen, over 500 hp) on that moment had a STOCK or VORTEC heads ?

(i know - the Vortec heads is better, than stocks)

what flow stock heads? (.500 and .600 lift)

190-195 ?

P.S.
....10sec run car, weight of 3800lbs+ driver+ fuel = moooore than 500 hp ;)

http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/quartmile.html?lbs=3900&hp=700&submit=Get+Results

750hp around - 100%
 

2kwik4u

Resident slow guy
Re: STOCK HEADS - possible power level ?

It's just a six said:
He said he dynoed it & made 320 HP, Mine made 386 HP & 550 FT lbs torque. Completely 100% stock long block.

You keep forgeting to tell everyone he only made 16-17psi of boost on those runs since that Dyno couldn't load a turbo motor properly to make full boost (which BTW, last I hear was in the low 20's of the street, and high 20's at the track).

I bet that his truck is near 400hp or so +/- some depending on whose ET/Trap speed calculator you use.
 

ghettosled

SYTY SUPERSTORE
Re: STOCK HEADS - possible power level ?

Divette said:
this car (when you seen, over 500 hp) on that moment had a STOCK or VORTEC heads ?%

stock heads, like i mentioned. just ported/polished.

And no it doesnt take 750hp to run 10s. A truck making 500-525 rwhp or approx 600 fly wheel hp will run ~126-128mph in the quarter, which with a good 60ft will net you solid in the 10s.
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
Re: STOCK HEADS - possible power level ?

Turbo 6 did 10.9 with a small shot of N2O and 11.1 without on a 100% stock short block. You can go fast on stock heads, but its more of going fast despite the heads/cam limitations. It would be something I recommend if rebuild a motor.
 

jbone

Member
Re: STOCK HEADS - possible power level ?

Divette said:
Hi guys!

Who knows - what MAX-level of power(HP) is possible at STOCK-HEADS typhoon/cyclone engine?
( Turbo setup & intercooler is performance, also is possible with Methanol injection)

If it is possible, specify ET 1/4mile, if it is known.

Thank beforehand.

By the way its: Syclone, not cyclone :roll:
 
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