Underside pix of my Ty, how rusty is it?

Jimmy

Banned
Re: Underside pix of my Ty, how rusty is it?

POR15 isn't exactly "goop".

I'm not covering anything up, and as S10 Blazers go, I've seen some that rusted out a lot worse.

I still don't see it as a bad truck, but I'm selling it for less than some of the ones I've seen which look way worse than this one does.

POR 15 is goop.

If your shit never was rusty,then it never was rusty,right?

Look way worse? You mean more rusty?

Not trying to be a dick but it either has rust or it doesn't.

There is no middle ground.
 

T-Bone

Active member
Re: Underside pix of my Ty, how rusty is it?

I agree with Jimmy. "Rust free" means it never had any rust.

So if someone had cancer in the past and underwent surgery and intense follow-on radiation to later hear the doctor inform them they are now cancer free, is he a liar?

I consider rust free to be defined as completely free from rust at the present time of listing, viewing, showing, etc.

BTW, with regards to my question above, many body shops consider rust as cancer on a vehicle....thus, a vehicle that undergoes a frame-off restoration (for example) with complete rust removal, were it present, IS considered after the repair to be "rust free"!!!
 

atkonkler

Is this your bush?
Re: Underside pix of my Ty, how rusty is it?

I highly doubt a doctor would utter the words "cancer free". Depending on the type and location of the cancer, a period of time has to lapse with no further indications of the cancer having returned before a declaration of "its in remission. There are no current indications" will be pronounced. I know several individuals that have been in remission from cancer for long enough periods of time that they could consider themselves "cancer free", but they don't. They call themselves cancer "survivors". They acknowledge they got by it once, and they are at higher risk of having it again, over an individual that never had it.



Like leave the hood and doors closed at a National event of enthusiasts so the rot can't be viewed? Or don't take pictures of the problem areas and show them to a prospective buyer before he travels 1,500 miles out of his way to look at the offering? Covering it up, or ignoring it, is not "rust-free".



I already stated my position earlier in the thread:



The following is in reference to sheet metal, and body rust of the type afflicting the OP's Typhoon. I'm referring to the many areas where rust is showing through body panels at the bottom, underside of the truck. This rot develops in the hidden crevasses at the bottom of the 1/4s and rockers, and body mount trusses. It progresses from the inside, rots through the metal, and by the time it's visible on the outside, the metal is rotten all the way through. Once its showing, its too late to "treat", it has to be removed. these areas of the vehicle are very difficult to access and labor-intensive (expensive) to repair.

Unless this 'damaged' metal is completely removed, treatments are only cosmetic or band-aids. The rust will continue to develop. Also note, that many interior surfaces of sheet metal panels are totally inaccessible once the body is assembled. If rust has developed in hidden area of the panels, there is no treatment possible to stop it. You can't get to it. There are chemical treatments where the entire body is submersed in vats of phosphoric acids to neutralize the iron oxide. While economically feasible for a L79 69 Camaro or an A-block Mopar, this process would be prohibitively expensive for the restoration of a $3,500 Typhoon.


I completely agree with your assessment that rust on vehicles is analogous with cancer in human beings. Just like cancer, rust can come back unless properly treated. Or maybe a different type, affecting an entirely different organ or area of the vehicle. Rust is rust. Once a car has it, particularly in sheet metal, it can be treated, and maybe it will stay in remission, maybe it won't. It can be a "rust survivor", but it won't be "rust free".

Parting comment. When a vehicle that required significant attention to rust repair/treatment during restoration is completed, it is almost never again exposed to the conditions that caused it to rust in the first place. So yes, a rust survivor will most likely be cured by an extensive (expensive) restoration and then kept in a dry garage during winters. Like a lung cancer survivor that increases his chances of survival after his treatment by quitting smoking.

Bottom line is that rust repair is expensive and time consuming, and the results are not always satisfactory. Depending on what a prospective purchasers intentions are with the vehicle in question, will influence how much rust he is willing to tolerate. A guy that is planning on a frame off, full repaint, keep it forever Ty, will desire as little rust as possible, because he's already committing to spending a ton of money. A guy that's going to cut holes in the fender for exhaust, install a Buick engine, and go ice racing doesn't give a shit about rust holes a dog can crawl through.

Regards,
DaveP

Doctors do say "CANCER FREE " DAVE P. , as soon as you go into remission and none can be found in the body you are deemed CANCER FREE! OF all people I SHOULD KNOW....I was Told by my doctor after COMPLETE remission. So rust is like cancer and can become rust free! I agree with Tbone here get your facts straight! But then again what would I know about CANCER? I'm just a noob fresh out of the womb right Dave P. ! ;)
 

Norm

Donating Member
Re: Underside pix of my Ty, how rusty is it?

Doctors do say "CANCER FREE " DAVE P. , as soon as you go into remission and none can be found in the body you are deemed CANCER FREE! OF all people I SHOULD KNOW....I was Told by my doctor after COMPLETE remission. So rust is like cancer and can become rust free! I agree with Tbone here get your facts straight! But then again what would I know about CANCER? I'm just a noob fresh out of the womb right Dave P. ! ;)



I think that would be the glass half full, or half empty argument. I would consider myself in remission and on the winning side of it. I would never consider myself cancer free. It can always come back, but doctors will tell you the best way to help your frame of mind.
 

atkonkler

Is this your bush?
Re: Underside pix of my Ty, how rusty is it?

Everyone has cancer in them it just takes the right mutation to propel it to its full blown stage. My oncologist doesn't blow smoke up your fufu , after 5 years its deemed CANCER free, bit you are more susceptible to other kinds due to the destruction of your bodies cells. The glass I always full with me even when I was deemed terminal. It's never too late and never to give up hope even when your in your darkest hour. Thinking positive creates the foundation that anything can be done. Do or do not! There is no such thing as try! As Yoda said it so wisely!
 

Flyin Ryan

hated cuz he drives fords
Re: Underside pix of my Ty, how rusty is it?

lol love how guy post pics of his truck and gets chewed a new one for sharing
 

MikeRenz

not stock
Re: Underside pix of my Ty, how rusty is it?

thread cleaned. lets keep it civil guys....the bickering over the same stuff is getting old.
 

Sy1566

New member
Re: Underside pix of my Ty, how rusty is it?

This thread suddenly became...... Well, In the words of Borat: Boring......!


Just kidding. GLWYS.
 

Philip

New member
Re: Underside pix of my Ty, how rusty is it?

lol love how guy post pics of his truck and gets chewed a new one for sharing

I'd still like to sell my truck to someone who wants one that is hopped up.

I prefer to trade it for a Harley pre 1997, AK 47's with sport stocks, a set of counter rotating 250HP or higher outboards, or an 18' and up speedboat like an Action or Hydrostream or Allison type boat. I have cash to trade up.

Someone who wants to go fast will love this one. Selling it at a loss. PM me with a phone number and make a reasonable offer.
 

Philip

New member
Re: Underside pix of my Ty, how rusty is it?

POR 15 is goop.

If your shit never was rusty,then it never was rusty,right?

Look way worse? You mean more rusty?

Not trying to be a dick but it either has rust or it doesn't.

There is no middle ground.

I've used POR15 on a trailer frame, and it works pretty well- thats on a load bearing part which had to be counted on for strength. Never had more issues. Its not like Bondo on rust.

Middle ground? You mean if mine has minimal rust, its just the same as the ones that are full of holes? Sure thing...
 

Jimmy

Banned
Re: Underside pix of my Ty, how rusty is it?

I've used POR15 on a trailer frame, and it works pretty well- thats on a load bearing part which had to be counted on for strength. Never had more issues. Its not like Bondo on rust.

Middle ground? You mean if mine has minimal rust, its just the same as the ones that are full of holes? Sure thing...

POR15 is good stuff.

If you have rust.
 

garryf53

New member
Re: Underside pix of my Ty, how rusty is it?

did not know they rusted that bad that is a lot rust the only rust on my ty is on the gas tank straps got a southern cal truck no rust my back seat has never even been set on. typhoon #1720 black w grey ps pump just started leaking will replace this afternoon
 

JSM

Active member
Re: Underside pix of my Ty, how rusty is it?

did not know they rusted that bad that is a lot rust the only rust on my ty is on the gas tank straps got a southern cal truck no rust my back seat has never even been set on. typhoon #1720 black w grey ps pump just started leaking will replace this afternoon

Did you skip your English class a few too many times in school?
 

Snoman002

New member
Re: Underside pix of my Ty, how rusty is it?

I wouldn't say 'minimal rust', there is a fair amount there and in some annoying places.

If its not taken care of soon that truck is going to need some serious repair. BUT, what is seen in the pictures looks catchable if its done now. One more northern winter with no precaution and its in bad shape, some precaution and it will do another winter. But, put it in the garage with a cheap sand blaster, some rust treatment, and it would be a good driver for years to come.

It will never be a show car, but very very few vehicles with 134k will ever be show quality so I think to argue the whole 'no rust' argument is pointless. Its not a show car, and it won't be without LOTS of money, and not just in rust repair. If you can show me a show car that's in award winning shape with 100k+ without a restoration in there then I will concede the point.

Point being, drive it without care and it won't be worth much in a few years, but put some time and a little money in it and it will be a great driver for a good price.
 

Anarchy99

New member
Re: Underside pix of my Ty, how rusty is it?

I know this is an old post but I've got this truck now and it's going through rust repair as we speak... no, not por-15, though I do use that on other projects as a good sealer rust preventer after you have fixed all problems. Cutting out the affected areas, welding in good metal and putting the truck back to how it should be. I love the little typhoon.
 

Anarchy99

New member
Re: Underside pix of my Ty, how rusty is it?

Got a lot done on the typhoon last week... actually body worked and painted 3 of my projects... It was literally paint and body hell week. Fixed the rust issues on the typhoon and as promised, rust cut out, metal patch panels welded in. new white paint. Still have to wet sand and buff everything but slowly and surely we are getting her all back together and back to her old glory. New windshield tomorrow, new rims and tires going on soon, just need to find red typhoon stickers to match the red stripe I have on my black zr1 rims... more to follow.

that's the old paint on the door and the new paint on the back panel...


 

Quickstop [UK]

Combating adversyty.
Re: Underside pix of my Ty, how rusty is it?

Wow man!

Great work - I love it when people take the unloved trucks and put some love back into them. Looks great!

Do argent cladding!! ;)

:tup:
 

Anarchy99

New member
Re: Underside pix of my Ty, how rusty is it?

Found a nice little leak... Went to pull the turbo off to have the seals replaced and found this... Good times.

 
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