What will it take to put the Ty in the 10's?

[Silly]

I ran a 12.3@114 mph. I do not have a scanner or anything but I will glady meet up wiht you to show you if you don't want to belive me.

Also on the low hp and trq statement I made I have plenty of data i can show you but once again i do not have a scanner so if you want to meet up I will show you. I can show you 10 differnt vehicles running 9's on minimum hp and then I can show you 10 completely different vehicles running 10's 11's and 12's with crayz 700-1000hp. what is the one thing that they have in common? they dyno chat trq curves. all the low hp quick cars have a flat trq curve which you can get from either a 60 series or a 72 but would be alot easier on a 60 series.

And like I said please don't turn this into a pissing conetest and by you bring up your chips that is what will happen. How many trucks don't even run on your 50# chip now? I will say mine did run with your chip. If you call only being able to run 2-3psi (on a good day) and fouling plugs every 100 miles. I sitll have the plugs if you would like to see how much you know about your chip calibrations.

Also lets compare this:

My truck with Brian Green parts on it- 15.4@9x mph. Can't really remember the mph but I have that on tape to show you too since you want to see everythign first hand.

My truck without Brian Green parts on it- 12.3@114 after gettign silly sideways at GLD and I have that on tape too if you want to see that also

 

[Silly]

On 2002-02-16 13:24, Tom Servo wrote:

Ummm ok. How about the peak efficiency on the 66 versus the 72.. ? Have you looked at that? The 66 is efficient at higher pressure ratios, like 25-30psi, the 72 is better at 15-25psi. I'm making this up, not based on my analysis of any compressor maps htough.

Ok Brian when you make a pass are you at 15psi for awhile? Maybe that is why you couidlnt run a ten second pass. No you are at your highest boost for the longest time pretty much from the 60' on. With a 66 turbo you can run 25psi with no problem as long as you have the obvious fuel and tuning. So you launch your truck at approx 5-10psi not flat footing it all the wya jsut yet not to spin then by the time your past the 60's you are now at WOT at 25psi. and maing your peak power THROUGHT the run. That is all I am trying to say here

 

[SyTyJedi]

Mike - I have only one thing to say to you.

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Tyler

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[ALBERTAN]

Brian man don't even post replies to this guy. We already hashed all this crap out with him early last Summer. Its true Mike that there are probably other ways to get into the 10's without running what I call the "72 setup". But that method has been tested and proven to work. If you want to come out to GLD in July at the Nats and get silly sideways with some of the Syclones and Typhoons running this proven setup then you can talk. The other thing that you are missing is that while a 60 series turbo may be able to huff and puff its way into the 10s (right Tony :wink, the 72 will do it with plenty of room to spare. There is a difference between beating on your ride to get a certain timeslip and doing it with ease and not having to worry about scattering parts half way down the track.

BTW Brian, I never realized you ran that 11.01 on pump gas and alky. Never mind the trap speed. I'd consider that a 10 second Syclone without the time slip. Excellent work. :grin:

 

[ghettosled]

On 2002-02-16 13:02, MarlboroTyphoon wrote:
Your right mike I have never put up any numbers at all. I guess my 11 second typhoon with stock pistons, rods, heads, headers, and cam is crap right?

Here you claim to have an 11sec ty, then later you say it ran 12.3 SHows how credible you are. There are guys out there who run faster on stock computer, stock injectors.

I can show you 10 differnt vehicles running 9's on minimum hp and then I can show you 10 completely different vehicles running 10's 11's and 12's with crayz 700-1000hp. what is the one thing that they have in common? they dyno chat trq curves.

lol. All motor hondas run 10s with less then 300hp.. What the hell is your point? We are talking about syclones and typhoons. A vehicle you apparently don't know anything about.

SyTys are not your regular 2wd vehicle race car. Our 60fts suck, aerodynamics is pathetic, and they weigh close to 4000lbs. Your theory's might make sense on other applications, but are nowhere even close when talking about sytys.

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[smeagol]

Too funny..

Your comments on the turbo stuff are just guesstimations with no real world info. I've been in 3 trucks with 72s, running low boost. Very responsive.

Yer right Stupid. My chip calibrations haven't changed in the 2 years since I worked on yours (they have). Why was I doing that wrenching on your truck (when you sat back watching me)? To be able to work on the chip cal some more. I gave up on the truck, and left you with an early version after you pissed me off for the last time.

I'm taking Dean's advice and I'm going to quit responding to your pointless posts.

Btw Dean, it wasn't a TRUE pump gas run. I ran 11.2 (several low 11 sec runs) with pure 93 & alky, but then I put 2-3 gallons of 116 octane in. I had no gas gauge,and thought I was running low. I made 2 more passes after adding the 116, then I stopped at a gas station down the road, thinking I had a half tank or so, and had a 45 minute ride home. I ended up putting in only 2 gallons or so to top off, and realized I ran with a very full gas tank of 93/116 mix (very little 116).

 

[SyTyJedi]

On 2002-02-16 13:45, MarlboroTyphoon wrote:
I ran a 12.3@114 mph. I do not have a scanner or anything but I will glady meet up wiht you to show you if you don't want to belive me.

Also on the low hp and trq statement I made I have plenty of data i can show you but once again i do not have a scanner so if you want to meet up I will show you. I can show you 10 differnt vehicles running 9's on minimum hp and then I can show you 10 completely different vehicles running 10's 11's and 12's with crayz 700-1000hp. what is the one thing that they have in common? they dyno chat trq curves. all the low hp quick cars have a flat trq curve which you can get from either a 60 series or a 72 but would be alot easier on a 60 series.

And like I said please don't turn this into a pissing conetest and by you bring up your chips that is what will happen. How many trucks don't even run on your 50# chip now? I will say mine did run with your chip. If you call only being able to run 2-3psi (on a good day) and fouling plugs every 100 miles. I sitll have the plugs if you would like to see how much you know about your chip calibrations.

Also lets compare this:

My truck with Brian Green parts on it- 15.4@9x mph. Can't really remember the mph but I have that on tape to show you too since you want to see everythign first hand.

My truck without Brian Green parts on it- 12.3@114 after gettign silly sideways at GLD and I have that on tape too if you want to see that also

Sounds like you have been sitting around a certain shop picking up some pointers. You are really showing their technical accuracy. Did you have to call another shop to have your truck fixed too?

Gettings sideways eh? I hear that's how they tune trucks - if you can get sideways and lay tracks - you must be making power right?

Where did they send your truck to get it fixed?

Idiot...

 

[spooldup]

sorry guys for creating this thread. So what i am getting from this is that my t-66 is crap? Should i change it?

 

[ghettosled]

With the proper turbine housing, a T66 is a good turbo. Recommended for around 600hp. I believe it takes around 650hp to run 10s in a sy. If your goal is to run 10s on a consistant basis, then a 72 might be a better choice with room to grow into. Seen as how they cost the same, and the 3000 stall 9/11 works perfect with it, I would suggest going 72 if you are starting from scratch.

try your 66 out and see what results you come up with. 90% of it is in the tunning, so give it a try.

 

[tyndago]

Man this guy Mike W. is a piece of work...

Saying BG don't know his stuff.... Man you are clueless...

Its true you may not need this part or that part , but I just from reading your past posts - dont seem like you have the experience to know what it will take.

12.3 @ 114..... Learn to launch the truck... I ran an 11.8 @ 113...11.9 @ 113...

Plus looking at all these compressor maps - ever look at the turbine side ? Know anything about heating the air by running higher boost ?

On the turbo side.... if you want to run 10's - you need at least 520 rwhp... at the least 600 -650 at the motor... in a Syclone

 

[Guest]

can someone please delete this post... we dont need this shit here.

 

[Silly]

Hey sean not knocking your 11.8 pass but wasn't that on a built bowtie block? mine wasn't.

And back to my previous point of people believing you have to spend crazy money to go fast look at the bowtie blocks.. every was saying you need it to run well into the 10's and faster correct? well once McCoy ran his flyin 9 second pass on a stock block everyone shut up about that didn't they? that ios what my point is here that everyone buys into the idea that you need big money parts to go fast when you really don't.

 

[ghettosled]

On 2002-02-17 12:54, MarlboroTyphoon wrote:
Hey sean not knocking your 11.8 pass but wasn't that on a built bowtie block? mine wasn't.

actually it was a worn out stock rebuild on 4 cylinders. That motor has sucked up a few spark plugs, burned like a qt of oil each pass, and had been squeezed numerous occation trying to blow it up. Far from a stout bowtie build.

And back to my previous point of people believing you have to spend crazy money to go fast look at the bowtie blocks.. every was saying you need it to run well into the 10's and faster correct? well once McCoy ran his flyin 9 second pass on a stock block everyone shut up about that didn't they? that ios what my point is here that everyone buys into the idea that you need big money parts to go fast when you really don't.

Not to take anything away from Mccoy, but i doupt he is making much more power if any than those guys running 10.9 AWD. Take weight loss into consideration, less drag with his tires, MUCH better 60fts, and the cold ass weather back home.

It's true the envelope keeps getting pushed open. People are going faster on the stock components. Nobody truely knew the limits of the stock block. I'm sure there are many others out there pushing the limits. To this day I am amazed torreys motor is in one piece. He is REALLY pushing the limit of the stock stuff, and it seems to be holding up. Good engine builder, good components, good tuner, good gas.... will take you a long way.

 

[tyndago]

Hey sean not knocking your 11.8 pass but wasn't that on a built bowtie block? mine wasn't.

Man my 11.8 pass was before Bowtie blocks existed... well not really....back in July 1999.....It was on a stock block , stock crank , stock rods , TRW pistons. If you look on Sportmachines.com - the video of the 11.95 Typhoon is mine.... watch how much it smokes going down the track...

http://www.motorex.net/cladding/11typhoon.html

When I did a leak down test I had 0 (zero) on #6 or 100% leakdown . Bad numbers on a couple of the other holes... Most of the rings came out in about 10 pieces....

You can go 10's on a stock block . Check the Nats this year... I predict a crazy stock block , awd pass....

But I am not looking to go 10's in a Ty... I want to run a 9 second pass , AWD . One of these years if I can get the money together... been collecting parts slowly the last few years... got a small collection... and I am going to do it the hard way....

 

[UNIsackV6]

This is great stuff, head out of town for a few days and look at what you can miss Is your ass hurting? It sure should be because you're getting hosed from all angles only you're too stupid to realize it.

 

[Silly]

Well Ryan if you must know I got speedpro ebcause there isn't a decent chip out there for 50lb injectors. What other choise did I have? i called PTE and was on teh phone with Joe kubriant for a good hour. He said that he could probablly do a 50lb chip but it would be so expenseive he didn't see the point. Then I emailed Dig as I was reffered to him by other disatisfied BG customers. He said he could do it but he didn't know when he had time. i said thanks but no thanks i need smoething now considering my truck would foul plugs every 100 miles or so on Bg's chip. that is why I got my speedpro it was recommended by Joe Lubriant to me. Now I doubt you are stupid enough to tell me Joe doesnt know what he is talking about are you? What times has Rich's Ty ran? No flaming here I got no probs with the guy I am jsut curious. Also why is that motor still in it dosnt he have a monster motor in the garage? And you seem you wanted to turn this into a flame wat right when it was starting to get away from that very good hope your proud of yourself acting like a little fucking 2 year old. What times has your truck ran? oh wait the damn thing never runs. Probablly never will either.

You guys think it is all funny to come out here and rip on the shop and the owner. Have you guys ever done what he has? He is one of the best things to ever heppen to the syty community. Where would we be without him? have you ever thought about that?

Also Have you ever thought a lawsuit for defamation?(sp?) Personally if i was him i would have sued your ass's a long time ago as you have no right to do this. you are lucky he is a nice enough guy to stay away from this shit, and let you guys have your fun while he works at the shop everyday making OUR trucks go faster.

 

[JimmyM]

You are a joke Mike.Go away.

 

[GMNightmare]

hey Mike,

My trucks ready to go is Yours????

 

[apple_juice]

"You guys think it is all funny to come out here and rip on the shop and the owner. Have you guys ever done what he has? He is one of the best things to ever heppen to the syty community. Where would we be without him? have you ever thought about that?"

All he did was buy someone elses project and run a slower time with the truck, and then build a business based on this one pass. You know nothing Marlboro Typhoon, so you should just go away and never come back. By the way Mike you bash Green's chip left and right, should he sue you for slander. Also you take these opurtunities to bash Greens chips and you only claim to have lost 300 bux on a chip, well Ryan was bilked for a little over 20k so how is that double standard worken out for you.
Ed


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[bdubb]

On 2002-02-19 01:10, MarlboroTyphoon wrote:
What times has your truck ran? oh wait the damn thing never runs. Probablly never will either.

really? thats funny. i could of sworn i saw it driving down the street a couple of weekends ago, hell i even remenber holding the video camera taping it.

You guys think it is all funny to come out here and rip on the shop and the owner. Have you guys ever done what he has? He is one of the best things to ever heppen to the syty community. Where would we be without him? have you ever thought about that?

best things is to rip people off? thats nice of him, o please let him rip me off next!!!

Also Have you ever thought a lawsuit for defamation?(sp?) Personally if i was him i would have sued your ass's a long time ago as you have no right to do this. you are lucky he is a nice enough guy to stay away from this shit, and let you guys have your fun while he works at the shop everyday making OUR trucks go faster.

really? all we are doing is telling people what we saw with our own eyes. if you guys dont like it, you are blind and i hope your ass feels good from gettin rapped by this place.

and on that faster note, how fast? wait, letme guess. 10.31@132..... are you buying one of those motors also? and people have ran 11s on a bg 50# chip. you couldnt even do that with speedpro. yeah, his chips must really suck then.