zq8 QUESTION
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fivetodrive
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Re: zq8 QUESTION
Just look in the glovebox. If they have the ZQ8 suspension it will be listed in the codes!
Just look in the glovebox. If they have the ZQ8 suspension it will be listed in the codes!
442typhoondude
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Re: zq8 QUESTION
The Xtreme Blazers are the only Blazers that came equipped with ZQ8 steering boxes.
The man above is correct, the ZQ8 suspension is listed on the RPO code sticker in the glovebox.
All Xtreme trucks came equipped with the ZQ8 suspension package if that makes your hunting any easier. Regular ZQ8's are a little harder for the untrained eye to spot, but when in doubt, just have a look in the glove box.
The Xtreme Blazers are the only Blazers that came equipped with ZQ8 steering boxes.
The man above is correct, the ZQ8 suspension is listed on the RPO code sticker in the glovebox.
All Xtreme trucks came equipped with the ZQ8 suspension package if that makes your hunting any easier. Regular ZQ8's are a little harder for the untrained eye to spot, but when in doubt, just have a look in the glove box.
the baPhoon
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Re: zq8 QUESTION
ZQ8 regular dimes sit a little lower then stock. inch and a half i believe it was. If ya find a totalled Xtreme and the front air dam isnt screwed... leme know lol
ZQ8 regular dimes sit a little lower then stock. inch and a half i believe it was. If ya find a totalled Xtreme and the front air dam isnt screwed... leme know lol
442typhoondude
Ty'less Bum
Re: zq8 QUESTION
They will always have 16x8 inch 5 spokes as well. The second generation 5 spoke ZQ8 wheels are probably my favorite looking GM factory wheel ever made, they're just not in the right size.
You only need to turn it about a fourth of one full rotation to tell.
The ZQ8 steering box should have debuted in the SyTy's. Even if I had a super rare truck with 100 miles, I'd throw in a ZQ8 steering box and burn the old one. Yes, I hate the standard steering boxes that much.
ZQ8 trucks don't get the love they deserve. Anyways, happy salvaging.
2 inches, but a half inch of it is in the tires.
They will always have 16x8 inch 5 spokes as well. The second generation 5 spoke ZQ8 wheels are probably my favorite looking GM factory wheel ever made, they're just not in the right size.
You only need to turn it about a fourth of one full rotation to tell.
ZQ8 trucks don't get the love they deserve. Anyways, happy salvaging.
442typhoondude
Ty'less Bum
Re: zq8 QUESTION
If you can't go look in the yards yourself, I'm not surprised you can't find a ZQ8. They're there, but finding a junk yard that has any clue what a ZQ8 is would be the almost impossible part.
The only one on ebay is $170 used, so that price for a new one might not be that bad.
If you can't go look in the yards yourself, I'm not surprised you can't find a ZQ8. They're there, but finding a junk yard that has any clue what a ZQ8 is would be the almost impossible part.
The only one on ebay is $170 used, so that price for a new one might not be that bad.
fivetodrive
CRISPY
Re: zq8 QUESTION
there is a second option that is not often discussed here. Some of the 3rd gen camaros had a quick ratio steering box. I cannot remember what the code is but I am 99% sure that they came in all z-28 camaros....
there is a second option that is not often discussed here. Some of the 3rd gen camaros had a quick ratio steering box. I cannot remember what the code is but I am 99% sure that they came in all z-28 camaros....
jabberwalk
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H
hhcs
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Re: zq8 QUESTION
Here is some info I just dug up SY's have a 16:1 / 13:1 variable ratio steering box Ty's are fixed 17:1
now the 2 wheel drive trucks with power steering are 15:1 /13:1 variable the ZQ8 is a sport suspension package with power steering, the steering box is not special, I have a red 1991 ordering
spec book that shows the specs, S10 Blazers and S15 Jimmys share the fixed 17:1 ratio, all 2 wheel drive S10, S15 and Sonoma with power steering have the 15:1/ 13:1 variable, That is why guys with SYs check the number of turns on the old boxes they pull out are the same as the 2 wheel drive
boxes, Sy guys and gals if your stock steering box is tight, just replace the steering shaft and pitman if it is loose, also most full size GM and GMC trucks use the same Steering box that is in our SY's, So the TY Owners with the fixed 17:1 ratio boxes will gain some increased response
with the the 16:1 / 13:1 type box or the 15:1 / 13:1 2 wheel drive box, I myself did a swap out a couple of weeks ago with one of the boxes I bought of this board, as I checked the number of turns
both boxes had the same amount , thats what started me on this quest about what was in the ZQ8 package,it is listed as G51 rear springs, F51 shocks and a N40 power steering, the N40 is not a special quick ratio steering box, it's just the optional power steering 15:1/ 13:1 ratio you could get on any 2 wheel drive S10, S15 or Sonoma, I hope this helps clear up any Questions About the ZQ8 option.
Again the TY owners can get faster steering response from going with the N40 2 wheel drive steering box.
Sorry for the length of the message.
Here is some info I just dug up SY's have a 16:1 / 13:1 variable ratio steering box Ty's are fixed 17:1
now the 2 wheel drive trucks with power steering are 15:1 /13:1 variable the ZQ8 is a sport suspension package with power steering, the steering box is not special, I have a red 1991 ordering
spec book that shows the specs, S10 Blazers and S15 Jimmys share the fixed 17:1 ratio, all 2 wheel drive S10, S15 and Sonoma with power steering have the 15:1/ 13:1 variable, That is why guys with SYs check the number of turns on the old boxes they pull out are the same as the 2 wheel drive
boxes, Sy guys and gals if your stock steering box is tight, just replace the steering shaft and pitman if it is loose, also most full size GM and GMC trucks use the same Steering box that is in our SY's, So the TY Owners with the fixed 17:1 ratio boxes will gain some increased response
with the the 16:1 / 13:1 type box or the 15:1 / 13:1 2 wheel drive box, I myself did a swap out a couple of weeks ago with one of the boxes I bought of this board, as I checked the number of turns
both boxes had the same amount , thats what started me on this quest about what was in the ZQ8 package,it is listed as G51 rear springs, F51 shocks and a N40 power steering, the N40 is not a special quick ratio steering box, it's just the optional power steering 15:1/ 13:1 ratio you could get on any 2 wheel drive S10, S15 or Sonoma, I hope this helps clear up any Questions About the ZQ8 option.
Again the TY owners can get faster steering response from going with the N40 2 wheel drive steering box.
Sorry for the length of the message.
442typhoondude
Ty'less Bum
Re: zq8 QUESTION
N40 is listed as optional in every second generation S-series, including 4WD Blazers and S10's. I've also found it listed as non variable steering ratio, as well as variable. I also found out that the N40 code is generic and has been used since the 1960's in nearly every GM line ever made to represent power steering.
I also have a ZQ8, have owned other S-series, and have driven every kind of S10 you can imagine. I assure you that no other S10 has steering even remotely like a ZQ8. My ZQ8 is fixed ratio as well, and has the N40 option.
My guess? N40 is generic for power steering.
Hmmm.hhcs said:
N40 is listed as optional in every second generation S-series, including 4WD Blazers and S10's. I've also found it listed as non variable steering ratio, as well as variable. I also found out that the N40 code is generic and has been used since the 1960's in nearly every GM line ever made to represent power steering.
I also have a ZQ8, have owned other S-series, and have driven every kind of S10 you can imagine. I assure you that no other S10 has steering even remotely like a ZQ8. My ZQ8 is fixed ratio as well, and has the N40 option.
My guess? N40 is generic for power steering.
442typhoondude
Ty'less Bum
Re: zq8 QUESTION
I've heard everything from 12:1 to 13:7. If a regular 2WD is 13:1, 12:8/12:7'ish would be my guess as to what my truck is. My truck is a bit under 3 turns lock to lock.
Based on my S10forum search, regular 2WD S10's have a lock to lock of over 3.5 turns, and my 1993 4x4 Jimmy is about 4.75.
I've seen a lot of guys opt for the 1988 G-body YA steering box, as it's a true solid 12:1 resulting in 2.5 or so turns lock to lock. I'm not all that educated on them as I just read about that swap for the first time today.
I've heard everything from 12:1 to 13:7. If a regular 2WD is 13:1, 12:8/12:7'ish would be my guess as to what my truck is. My truck is a bit under 3 turns lock to lock.
Based on my S10forum search, regular 2WD S10's have a lock to lock of over 3.5 turns, and my 1993 4x4 Jimmy is about 4.75.
I've seen a lot of guys opt for the 1988 G-body YA steering box, as it's a true solid 12:1 resulting in 2.5 or so turns lock to lock. I'm not all that educated on them as I just read about that swap for the first time today.
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hhcs
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Re: zq8 QUESTION
Ok Guys,
I did a little more reading in my 1991 light duty data book and found this, under general steering information #1 foot note 15/13:1 steering ratio w ZQ8 sport chassis pkg, this was next to the sonoma pickup specs. But in the Sierra full size it list 16/13:1 steering ratio on all pickups,but with a #2 foot note ZQ8 sport suspension has12.7:1 ratio, so in 1991 it looks like only the full size with the ZQ8 sport suspension had the 12:1 ratio steering, thats probably the setup in the SS 454
option pickup.
I know that both steering boxes i had, the stock SY and the one 2 wheel with the ZQ8 option had the same amount of turns lock to lock and my truck responses the same as before but with no slop in it
because of the steering shaft and pitman arm, the only problem I am having, is when turning the wheel when the truck is not moving it sounds like a high pressure sound, the pump runs quiet when not turning the wheel, it steers smooth no jumping.
Some day maybe we will get to the bottom of the ZQ8 mystery.
Ok Guys,
I did a little more reading in my 1991 light duty data book and found this, under general steering information #1 foot note 15/13:1 steering ratio w ZQ8 sport chassis pkg, this was next to the sonoma pickup specs. But in the Sierra full size it list 16/13:1 steering ratio on all pickups,but with a #2 foot note ZQ8 sport suspension has12.7:1 ratio, so in 1991 it looks like only the full size with the ZQ8 sport suspension had the 12:1 ratio steering, thats probably the setup in the SS 454
option pickup.
I know that both steering boxes i had, the stock SY and the one 2 wheel with the ZQ8 option had the same amount of turns lock to lock and my truck responses the same as before but with no slop in it
because of the steering shaft and pitman arm, the only problem I am having, is when turning the wheel when the truck is not moving it sounds like a high pressure sound, the pump runs quiet when not turning the wheel, it steers smooth no jumping.
Some day maybe we will get to the bottom of the ZQ8 mystery.
ShuggsRR
Donating Member
Re: zq8 QUESTION
12.7:1 for the ZQ8 ratio. The ZQ8 as we know it was intruduced mid year 1996. Anything before that is not what you are looking for.
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What is the ZQ8 suspension :
- The ZQ8 starts with the frame stiffened with extra bracing
- Softer than stock springs which lowers the truck 2"
- deCarbon shocks all the way around
- A rear anti-swaybar from a Blazer
- An axle hop damper shock, which is attached to the frame and the axle
- Performance steering ratio, 12.7:1 out of a Z28/Trans Am
- 16" rims off of 1991 and 1992 Camaros (with different center-caps)
- Goodyear Eagle GA P235/55-R16 tires
- The ZQ8 will pull .84g on the skidpad
- It is comparable to the handling of the Mustang GT, Z28, and the Trans AM
ZQ8 Suspension History:
- The ZQ8 suspension was first created to cater to the young crowd (18 - 24 year old buyer) who have been lowering their trucks with aftermarket components. It is a way for young people to have a safe, reliable, and good looking lowered truck.
- The prototype of the ZQ8 was first seen on an older S-truck and was code-named "Zeke"
- The ZQ8 was originally designed in 1991
- The ZQ8 was first put on a production vehicle in 1996.
- It is now marketed as the Sport Suspension Package and comes with P235/55/R16 tires, 16" aluminum wheels,
- It came standard on the S10 with the SS package and the S10 Xtreme.
- The ZQ8 option on a new truck costs $703 (invoice is $604.58)
- With the SS package, the ZQ8 costs $455 as an option. (the invoice price is $391.30)
- The ZQ8 is now available to those of us who missed out on it on our trucks. Listed in the new GM Performance Parts catalog, it has a list price of $1005 (without rims or hop damper). The rims are available for around $500 a piece. Ouch! I'd suggest looking in the local classifieds for these.
12.7:1 for the ZQ8 ratio. The ZQ8 as we know it was intruduced mid year 1996. Anything before that is not what you are looking for.
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What is the ZQ8 suspension :
- The ZQ8 starts with the frame stiffened with extra bracing
- Softer than stock springs which lowers the truck 2"
- deCarbon shocks all the way around
- A rear anti-swaybar from a Blazer
- An axle hop damper shock, which is attached to the frame and the axle
- Performance steering ratio, 12.7:1 out of a Z28/Trans Am
- 16" rims off of 1991 and 1992 Camaros (with different center-caps)
- Goodyear Eagle GA P235/55-R16 tires
- The ZQ8 will pull .84g on the skidpad
- It is comparable to the handling of the Mustang GT, Z28, and the Trans AM
ZQ8 Suspension History:
- The ZQ8 suspension was first created to cater to the young crowd (18 - 24 year old buyer) who have been lowering their trucks with aftermarket components. It is a way for young people to have a safe, reliable, and good looking lowered truck.
- The prototype of the ZQ8 was first seen on an older S-truck and was code-named "Zeke"
- The ZQ8 was originally designed in 1991
- The ZQ8 was first put on a production vehicle in 1996.
- It is now marketed as the Sport Suspension Package and comes with P235/55/R16 tires, 16" aluminum wheels,
- It came standard on the S10 with the SS package and the S10 Xtreme.
- The ZQ8 option on a new truck costs $703 (invoice is $604.58)
- With the SS package, the ZQ8 costs $455 as an option. (the invoice price is $391.30)
- The ZQ8 is now available to those of us who missed out on it on our trucks. Listed in the new GM Performance Parts catalog, it has a list price of $1005 (without rims or hop damper). The rims are available for around $500 a piece. Ouch! I'd suggest looking in the local classifieds for these.