'92 Sonoma GT vs ?? Suburu WRX

'92 Sonoma GT vs ?? Suburu WRX

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sonomaGT

This could be fun
I was just sort of cruzin around one night, when i pulled up to a light. A few seconds later a Suburu WRX pulls next to me. HE rolls down his window, i do the same. He tells me he had not ever raced a Syclone. I told him,"Do you see the Sonoma GT on the door? Cause thats what it is." He says bull shit, I say what ever. He starts reving, i figure, what the hell, i dont care if i get my ass hung to me by a WRX. I power brake to a point just before the tires break lose, which is about 2200 rmp, or so. I launched right as it went green, some how i take him off the line. I glance back, & see his front tires spinning. As soon as he hit 2nd, he had recoupled his losses, meeting my passenger door, but then i hit 2nd, which i opened a tiny gap between us agin, when he hit 3rd, he slowly walked passed me, by this piont neither of as were gaining much ground.He the shut down at 70 as did I.
He pulls in to a parking lot, so I followed. When we stopped, he asked to see the motor(him thinking it was the Sy/Ty motor). When I opened the hood, he was fairly dissapionted. I told him,"Told you it was'nt a Syclone". He then asked me how I hung with him, I told him I don't know.
Later that night, I talked with another WRX owner, & he said that since its AWD, & manual, it has some special MOMO package, that makes the driver really have to drive it. He said there is a certin way to drive the car, if you dont do it, it won't perform at its the best of it abilitys. I dont know anything about these cars.
My only mods are a K&N filter, Vortec Exhaust, & Hyper-tech chip. I have also rigged a sort of ram-air system up(routing the hose right to front of grille, just to the side of the radiator, only the filter slows incoming air), It seems to have more power, but maybe I am just imagining things.
One last comment, I really dont know what year Suburu it is, but I am pretty sure it is the newest. If you ever watch World Rally, it is the same body style as Tommy Makiden's WRX Race car.
 

Opleezz

Member
i didnt know there was a special way to drive a WRX maybe thats why his front were spinning at the line, are you sure you had him off the line? cause i just dont see a 2wd truck hanging with a awd anything on the road, but sure nice kill sorta
 

just a 6

R.I.P MyClone
I think it was a 2wd Sub, i can't see a WRX spinning the front wheels :eek:




Opleezz said:
i didnt know there was a special way to drive a WRX maybe thats why his front were spinning at the line, are you sure you had him off the line? cause i just dont see a 2wd truck hanging with a awd anything on the road, but sure nice kill sorta
 

phoonTy

Truckless. For now.
do they even make a 2wd sub? I thought every sub was AWD, even the SVX thing is AWD. got your transmission fixed too?
 

sonomaGT

This could be fun
I think ever since 98, or so, all Suburus have AWD. This was an AWD WRX, but it just did'nt pick up real fast. Also, I race quite a bit, & I have been beat off the line 1 time, by an old Chevy Pick-up with a 454. I have some decent sized tires, that makes it easy for me to launch hard. The tires, & posi, & lim-slip rear end, & traction bars. Also when i launch, most of the weight is thrusted rear ward, thus creating better traction.
As for the trans., nope, still broke, wont shift to 3rd, or 4th. He happened to pick a good speed to slow down, cause i couldnt go any faster.
 

sonomaGT

This could be fun
I just thought about the intersection we raced from, he probley had his front tires on the cross walk as I looked back, that is how they were spinning. The rear tires were not spining, but the fronts, or the front left any way, were/was. That is probley what happened.
 

RS25.com

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The WRX is a 2002 model, and is AWD. Spinning the tires on that car is just about impossible, except on wet surfaces. And even then, damn hard. I drive a 2000 RS (non-turbo, and the WRX is based on my RS) and the only place you can get the tires to break loose are (1) on snow/ice or (2) cornering at high speed in second gear with serious mods. On snow pack, I have to turn the car and floor it in first gear before I can break traction. Ice is a whole different story, but drifting on ice is extremely fun. :D

If it had a hood scoop (for the intercooler) then it was a WRX. If it does not have the hood scoop, then it was the RS version (non-turbo.) The intercooler is mounted directly to the throttle body, on top of the engine, and the air comes through the scoop and right through the IC. Decent design for high speed, but get's heat-soaked in city driving.

Off the line, if launched properly, the RS/WRX's are very fast. But nowhere near as fast as a Ty/Sy. But on a bumpy, windy, twisting mountain road I'll take the RS over my skitter bug Ty any day. :)
 

Makaveli

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My buddy just got a WRX a few days ago. It's a decent looking car, interior isn't bad, comfortable ride. He's hammering the shit out of it with only 500 on the odom. Maybe once it breaks in it will be quicker. "Bluebaru" as I call it was supposed to run 5.4 0-60 per Subarus specs. It doesn't seem FAST, just quick. He's a retard though, can't drive for shit. He guns it the other day, almost misses our turn and jacks on the brakes triggering the ABS and damn near drove over a big ass rock at the corner of the road. ** How do you launch a 5 spd correctly?? **
 

RS25.com

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Launching the WRX/RS is easy - rev to about 3k to 4k RPM, then dump the clutch - quickly, but not by taking your foot completely off the pedal and letting it fly back to the top. Keep in the gas when you do that.

WARNING: The Subaru's are notorious for transmission problems caused by power launches, ESPECIALLY second gear. So that means do NOT power shift from first to second gear (no clutch) or try to chirp the tires in second gear (with the gas pedal on, clutch in, shift, clutch out at 6,000+ RPM). If you do this repeatedly you WILL destroy the Subaru transmission. There are a number of guys on the Subaru club that I run (http://www.RS25.com/Forums) who have this problem, and had to switch to full dog box transmissions. There are even more guys on the I-Club with dead trannys.
 

turbinated

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its a fun car to drive in gt3 the car in that game isnt that quick off the line either but it is just a video game. My friend with a lightning gen 1 raced one at the track and had it beat for a lil ways. then its like that car took off after 1st. the gen 1 ran a 14.8 with mods and the wrx ran a 14.2. so who knows
 

Ian Turgeon

Cascading Inspiration
with my experience in 2wd (rwd nissan pickup, fwd nissan sentra, rwd z28, fwd crx si) with sticks.. throw in the sy which is simply easy to drive. Jumping in my dad's wrx proved a funny ass launch.. you definately need a little seat time in an awd stick to get it right.

I launched at 2500 and it boged to a giant dissapointment.... i woulda peeled the tires off my crx in the same situation.

The WRX is definatly a damn fun car to drive.
 

msheller

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We have a 91' Sy, 89' conquest tsi and a 2002 WRX.....and the wrx is mega fun but lo torque....4 now. And, yes-it (WRX)can be difficult to launch properly....AND, the ECU , from what i understand, exercises a huge amount of control over the boost via the solenoid to the Wastegate actuator.....(I hooked up a boost gage to the line to the w.g. act. to check the way the solenoid operates(I'm on vacation with time to spare)....and it (ECU)has its nose in there all the time ....WG kicks in at around 7 psi(yes we get 15 psi-but the ECU fools with boost alot between 7-15 psi....possibly rpm/load/environment dependent) ) I think Any real power on a stock wrx happens above 1st gear..... It feels as if it has minimal torque....maybe due to small displacement or flat engine design or VERY VERY restrictive stock exhaust.... The three catalytic converters(one cat before the turbo!!!!!!!!) likely kill power too...... AND Yes the WRX feels MUCH more powerful after it is broken in .... It is a very "learning-type ecu" from what i'm told......Ours does feel much better after 2K miles!!! Its supposed to fine tune fuel and timing as its broken in.....ALSO-a new wrx driver may not realize that all the fun happens at 4000-7500rpm....if ya don't rev it out its like a regular 4 cyl.... I wanna see a rematch of that WRX vs. Sonoma when 1) its broken in to 2K miles, 2) the wrx loses at least 2 of the 3 catalytic converters it came with, 3) the wrx cranks boost on that miniturbocharger to at least 18psi via a 1$ bleeder.......4) its cooler weather(top mount IC) or run em' as is 30-100mph and that little top mounted IC sucks some cold air!!!

The WRX is a mega fun car with buckets o' potential.....with low buck mods... but I could see how the stock vehicle could seem a bit anemic for the first 20 drives.... and in 1st gear....its just like our conquest....it was tame before we oncorked the exhaust and cranked the boost a bit....now its a torque monster like the SY........Of course the SY NEEDS no mods.....ours was ridiculously fast right out o' the box...."no drinks" ........or you'll wear em!!!!! I wanna kiss the inventor of the turbocharger!
Boy i'm glad my wife like turbos 2
Matt
 

Maxtor

New member
It's really NOT hard to launch the WRX, it's just hard on it. Rev and hold the RPM's at 4000, then drop the clutch. A minimal AWD chirp will be followed by hookup and an almost immediate shift to 2nd. This is where a short throw shifter comes into play because I always missed the damn 2nd gear shift with the stock shifter. I can easily take my wife off the line and stay ahead of her in her almost-stock 99 Lightning with this move. Really pisses her off... :D

They are fun to drive, they are great for a daily driver, but they are not a Sy or Ty. Not even a good race on the street IMO.
 

msheller

New member
Mad Mike,

I'm assuming that you were responding to reddog with your response: "wake up son, time 4 summer school..(front wheels spinning)"....So, you don't think he was racing an awd scooby doo!?!?! I agree --> its quite easy to mistake a subaru with a hood scoop for a wrx... (many subarus have hood scoops)... I guess you are suggesting that he was racing a front wheel drive subaru..... yeah---there's no way that you get noticeable front tire spin on a wrx.... believe me I drove ours the past 3 days...and those front tires will not spin! but its fun trying especially around corners....

Matt
 

msheller

New member
yes, there are many front wheel drive subarus.....and

maxtor---thanks 4 the tips on launching the wrx...I hope the tranny holds......its my wifes daily d'r....and Mad Mike....if u were making fun of me that's OK cuz i'm known 4 rambling aimlessly...and I never was good in school...but I managed to avoid summer school......thanks Matt
 

msheller

New member
Matt,

Yes the conquests and starions are 2.6 inline 4's ..... Check out amsoil's website re: the Sakura racecar (tubeframe mitsu galant dragcar) with the 2.6 starion engine with huge turbo , 57 psi of boost (yes five seven), methanol, NOS+++.....fastest 4 cyl in world 7.0 ET 1/4 mi. Freddie Fuentes is the engine builder out of P. Rico.

Thanks 4 the interest Matt
 
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