ATR's Aux. Intercooler kit

sytyfreak

New member
Hi all,

I was wondering if this kit is worth the $$$ and have some Q's. Any member using it??? Any complaints??? Is it 100% bolt on??? Is the IC pump as strong/stronger than jabsco or shurflo????

Thanx
 

BluTy

New member
The "Fuel" pump? I am assuming you are talking about the intercooler pump, and it IS a ShurFlo, with ATR stickers on it. My Ty has this kit, and with a larger ShurFlo pump that the kit comes with (flows 3.8 SCFM, the kit comes with one that flows 2.1 SCFM) my inter-coolant temp was 65-70*F after driving it for 180 miles on a 95*F day last year. It seems efficient enough, thats for sure. You can buy the ShurFlo pumps at any RV supply store. The bigger pump I have in my truck was $115 I think.

HTH's

Andy
 

icatcher

New member
I got one

I got one

I have the ATR aux kit.
The atr kit is just a hayden trans/oil cooler can't remeber which.
The pump is the shurflo. Don't know if it works it was on mine when
I bought it. I do know that my intake is always cool to the touch.
I also have the pump hotwired. One of the other SyTy peeps will
chime in I'm sure. Make sure you ditch the restrictive and heat absorbing stock metal pipes with 3/4" heater hose. If it was me I would try to put together my own kit. much cheaper.You can get the pump from campers choice for about $60, shuld be able to pick up a cooler for about $125 and theme the heater hose at about $15. That'll save ya few ducketts.. HTH..
 

Motokal

New member
I have been searching the archives and was about to ask the same question. It appears you can built/acquire the same parts for much less however getting all the parts at once is a pain.

Ron Gregroy has the Jabsco IC pump for $110 (he currently does not have any in stock but I contacted him and he is ordering them and they should be available in a couple of days). And, I best deal I found on the Hayden Trans cooler #1241, so far, is $71.00 from www.dieselpage.com but they don't have them in stock (they said once ordered, it takes about 2 weeks).

Hopefully some more experienced members can shed some light on your question....I am interested in their responses too.
 

sytyfreak

New member
Andy,

thanx for the info, and sorry about the "fuel pump" LOL it's just that i was thinking on these 3 things(IC pump, FP, AFPR) I think i'm going to order them all at the same time.

Chris,

So it's actually a hayiden??? Geez i thought it was a custom made one. Guess I'll buy the haiden and build a kit myself. And yes I'll do the heater hose and the hot wiring when I do the IC pump! Thanx for the info!

Kent,

Thanx for the info too! Damn, $71???? I thought they cost about $110!! I'll buy it from them thats for sure!
 

icatcher

New member
yep it is..

yep it is..

It sure is a hayden. yep do it with the parts mentioned and you'll save a few $$
Also on another note I have heard mixed feelings on whethter it works or not. I know plenty of the stock guys are running with just the heater hose mod and hot-wired pump and there mats are low too. And the intake is cool to the touch. Just a heads up. HTH.
 

sytyfreak

New member
Re: yep it is..

Re: yep it is..

icatcher said:
It sure is a hayden. yep do it with the parts mentioned and you'll save a few $$
Also on another note I have heard mixed feelings on whethter it works or not. I know plenty of the stock guys are running with just the heater hose mod and hot-wired pump and there mats are low too. And the intake is cool to the touch. Just a heads up. HTH.


Thanx Chris,

Is there anyone here that has IC pump, running on heater hose, and hot wired pump and had installed an aux intercooler after these mods that has noticed any difference????
 

spooldup

Super Member
yea me. I noticed much cooler ic temps. The pump is a 3.5gph shurflo. I just bought a new one at boaters world. Look where the bilge pumps are. It costed me like 68 bucks.
 

just a 6

R.I.P MyClone
IC pump flow?

IC pump flow?

Correct me if i'm wrong, but if you have a pump that pumps coolant to fast throu the lower heat exchanger the cooling effect will be less compare to a less flow pump and longer time to cool in lower heat exchanger???

Any info on that would be very appriciated :D
 

icatcher

New member
Correct me if i'm wrong, but if you have a pump that pumps coolant to fast throu the lower heat exchanger the cooling effect will be less compare to a less flow pump and longer time to cool in lower heat exchanger???

Very true.
So you generally would not want to put a higher flowing pump on the stock system. What i mean is you do not want to jump from one flowing 2 gal per min to one flowing 6. As all you will accomplish is circulating hot water, not the purpose of the ic. However when you have more to flow thru, eg. the ATR aux ic ,bigger ic, larger hoses, a higher flowing pump is needed.
I don't know if anyone has determined what size pump is too much yet. That is all dependent on the ic (stock, atr, connely, etc..), any aux ic , the route of the ic hoses, the diameter of the hoses etc.. As you can see it all gets complex pretty quick. The jabsco, shurflo works good for a stock system. I have the surflo on and have the atr upper ic, and aux and my mats stay cool. Haven't looked on datamaster but the intake is always cool to the touch. after any long drives or wot blasts.
 

4C FED

Absolutum Dominium
Motokal said:
I have been searching the archives and was about to ask the same question. It appears you can built/acquire the same parts for much less however getting all the parts at once is a pain.

Ron Gregroy has the Jabsco IC pump for $110 (he currently does not have any in stock but I contacted him and he is ordering them and they should be available in a couple of days). And, I best deal I found on the Hayden Trans cooler #1241, so far, is $71.00 from www.dieselpage.com but they don't have them in stock (they said once ordered, it takes about 2 weeks).

Hopefully some more experienced members can shed some light on your question....I am interested in their responses too.

Not sure that the #1241 is the correct item.
I am sure that 1810 is correct (the same on that ATR uses & I have one) and it does run approx. $118.00
 

just a 6

R.I.P MyClone
I don't know if all of them, but at least one PepBoys here in DFW area sells those Hayden trans cooler. Maybe you should check with your localy PepBoys if they have it or can order it?
 

Motokal

New member
Guys,

I ordered a Hayden from Diesel Injection, it arrived today. The total invoice was $80.07. It sure looks like the one in the ATR catalog. The measurements are (approx.) 21" x 9" X 2". There was also a mounting kit included.

Would sure like to know if this is similiar to the ATR dimensions? Anybody know for sure?

Anywho, I will try and post some pics on My Pics (on Yahoo)...please forgive me if the link doesn't work....kinda new at this stuff.

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/motokal/lst?.dir=/KentsSy
 

4C FED

Absolutum Dominium
Nope that's not the correct one. :(

The ATR is bigger, 24" header to header or 24" core, I can't remember which.

That mounting kit probably won't do you any good.
You need to go to the hardware store and buy some insulated clamps that fit snug around the header tubes. You'll have to make some plates for the clamps attach to, then the plates will mount to the radiator core support.
You'll also have to cut the hood latch support so that the cooler will fit behind it.
When you cut the hood support, make sure you cut it as close to the hood latch as you can. You'll see there is some extra material near the latch, start just below that. Then cut deep enough to allow some movement of the cooler so it doesn't hit/rub on the hood support.
 

Motokal

New member
4C FED,

Kinda a bummer, but I think it will suffice. Its a nicely built piece though- IMHO.

Thanks for the info on the cutting the support latch....still thinking about ideas for the support, but insulated clamps are a must.
 

4C FED

Absolutum Dominium
Motokal said:
4C FED,

Kinda a bummer, but I think it will suffice. Its a nicely built piece though- IMHO.

Thanks for the info on the cutting the support latch....still thinking about ideas for the support, but insulated clamps are a must.

Yeah, it will fit and work no problem.
It's just that you could fit a larger core in there than 18" you have.
 
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