Distributerless ignition with remote coils?

canadian

sy in progress
found a MSD v6 crank trigger on ebay a while ago for less than $100. might want to keep souring there to see if one pops up.
 

Sy#26

New member
The universal ones use a 'powered' pickup & steel studs in the trigger wheel move past it. Ya can put in the studs for a V6. To interface this w/ the SyTy ignition module, all that's needed is two capacitors to isolate the DC voltage from the module. Easy, works nice also, tried it.
 

imported_ty1724

New member
depending on your price range electromotive has a setup that will work well i think you should be able to use there wheel and trigger whith the e-dist or pick up there stand alone system it is pretty sweet i will be going this route soon
 

10secTy

Sy-Ty builder and Tuner
The electromotive pickup will not work it uses a 60 tooth wheel .

i guess if there was a bunch of guys stuck you could buy the sensor mount and sensor. then I could take apart my truck and take the trigger wheel in to a CNC shop and have a bunch CNCed. Then I would have to drill the three spots for the magnets. Then just buy the magnets from MSD and epoxy them into the trigger wheel.

Hmmm if there is enough guys interested and desperate I guess I could do it. My time is nonexistant at this time so it might take a bit.(4 trucks to finish building before spring)

Nolan
 

Sy#26

New member
Trigger wheel-wise, I ran into a slight glitch on my crank nose pulley. Adding the MSD wheel spaced the serpentine drive belt pulley out by just over 1/2". Wound up lathing a 1/2" section out of another pulley & welding it back together. Just *another* day added to the project......
 

10secTy

Sy-Ty builder and Tuner
On mine the trigger wheel was .200" thick so I just had .200 machined off the snout of the harmonic blancer so it would sit further into the cover the then all the pullies where realigned.

Nolan
 

Sy#26

New member
Ya know, come to think of it - the original SBC trigger wheel, inside the cam cover, had to be spaced out a bit also to clear the 2-row timing chain. Total stack came out to be 1/2" +/-. Your solution was *much* better! Hell, its done, not gonna un-do it.
 

turbodig

Active member
Just to throw an idea out there...


Anybody considered making trigger wheels?

I've got a 5" in the works that was cut from a chunk of 5" bar stock (like slicing
sausage).

For the trigger device, a crank trigger from a 3.1 V6. It's a MR unit, so all it
needs out of a wheel is for it to be ferrous metal, and have regular spaced
notches. Can make the notches however you want, really.

This generates an AC signal, which can be used with pretty much any ignition
you'd want to use it with.

I'm attempting to set up a DIS system, which, if it works, will cost a DIY
'er <$100. Should also be a plug-in to the stock ECM.

More on this as the project develops....

Dig
 

smeagol

Active member
local buddy can make 'em. He had one of the cover cars for GMHTP.

He built one for a Supra powered Lexus SC300 that used FAST with eDist. Made 980rwhp @ 8100rpm or something, so I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it worked ok :p

Dig - the 3.1L idea - didn't Gordon Jennings do the same setup?
 

turbodig

Active member
smeagol said:
local buddy can make 'em. He had one of the cover cars for GMHTP.

He built one for a Supra powered Lexus SC300 that used FAST with eDist. Made 980rwhp @ 8100rpm or something, so I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it worked ok :p

Dig - the 3.1L idea - didn't Gordon Jennings do the same setup?

Possibly... I guess I don't remember an external crank trigger being
involved.

I should have the "prototype" on a vehicle within a month or two... from
there, it's a matter of shaking down the timing to make sure everything
lines up.

One thing's for sure... ground either end of that coilpack and you get one
wicked-looking blue spark out of the apparatus....

Dig
 

turbodig

Active member
marlborosyclone said:
Any updates on these projects

Ran into a snag with my trigger wheel not fitting a stock setup. Plan B is to mod the balancer itself, and use it as the wheel.

My Sy is basically dead garage weight now, so I might just as well use it as a manufacturing buck....

Later,

Dig
11.83 on 6
12.10 on 5
 

Lew

New member
coil-on-plug trigger wheel/cam sensor

coil-on-plug trigger wheel/cam sensor

Nolan, Dig et. al
I have an EDIST but need the trigger wheel and cam sensor. Any updates with part numbers so I can order something? Is that DIY web page up? URL ??
I would put this set-up on the Indy (749 ECM) Sy to get rid of the incessant stumble a week after replacing everything in the ignition again & again.
 

protosy

New member
I used a crane optical sensor in place of the stock rotor for a cam sync. works great. i also used the msd plug-n-play adapter to make my harness so i didnt have to cut the factory harness up and also kept my stock tach working.

chad
 

Lew

New member
Data for Crane Sensor/MSD harness adapter

Data for Crane Sensor/MSD harness adapter

Do you have part numbers or other descriptive material so that I might order the parts?

Still in need of a crank trigger wheel/pickoff.

Lew
 

protosy

New member
Re: Data for Crane Sensor/MSD harness adapter

Re: Data for Crane Sensor/MSD harness adapter

Lew said:
Do you have part numbers or other descriptive material so that I might order the parts?

Still in need of a crank trigger wheel/pickoff.

Lew

I actually am still using the stock distributer for the crank signal.

I will try to dig out the crane info.

chad
 
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