Nitrous as a turbo lag assistant...?

[HotRudyRod]

Hey, has anyone tried nitrous as a turbo lag assistant? Im planing to do that on my truck and i figure i wont have to LOAD my completly stock drive train as much as i am boost/braking it at launching, if it breaks who cares i just wanna try some else than the 1 2 3 here. Input wil be very apreeciated, thanks.

Here's a list of the mods i have, so you can point me out on to what else i would need to make it all work, thanks.
Stock motor, Waller TH700R4, 9/11 conv, 20G WG ported turbo, Ultimate chip, 2 stage "dry" progressive NOS nitrous systems, progressive AlkiControl, NOS Intercooler chillbar, Jabsco IC pump, 255 FP, GN billet FPR, Manual exahust cut out, MSD Coil and wires, ZEX sparkplugs, MSD knock sensor, Autometer F/A and Boost gauges, GTech PRO, Datamaster.

 

[ghettosled]

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according to your sig, you already have a 2 stage dry kit. try it and let us know how it works

 

[Raist103]

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700hp with a 20g?

 

[midnightbluS10]

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I think he's referring to the tranny.

 

[Raist103]

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yeah i saw that, but a 700 holding that kind of hp i dont see how.

 

[blk00z28]

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As a lag? I thought when nitrous was used on a turbo car/truck that it created a faster spool time?

Maybe I'm wrong here..? :dunno:

 

[GM TURBO]

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As a lag? I thought when nitrous was used on a turbo car/truck that it created a faster spool time?

Maybe I'm wrong here..? :dunno:

The wording of the subject line is goofy.

Nitrous will decrese spool times.

How big of a turbo are you going to be running? A 20G with a decent sized exhaust housing will spool quick.

If you want to run nitrous (it has been done before) I'd say you'd have better results using it as a power adder than simply using it for spooling your turbo.

 

[HotRudyRod]

Re: Nitrous as a torbo lag....

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The wording of the subject line is goofy.

Nitrous will decrese spool times.

How big of a turbo are you going to be running? A 20G with a decent sized exhaust housing will spool quick.

If you want to run nitrous (it has been done before) I'd say you'd have better results using it as a power adder than simply using it for spooling your turbo.

Yeah it sounds kinda weird now, hehe. But what i want to try is launching without havin to brake/boost as bad as i have to and get the turbo to create some boost right after i started movin and not while im standing still strainin the hell out of everything.

The "signature" isnt really a signature, its a list i pasted from another site to help guys understand what mods are on the list and whats not so i could get better advice, not sayin im planin to make this or that much power on a 20g or that yes the trans will or not hold that much, its the rating of the built i was refererin about. I wouldnt put such an over explained list of mods cause you all already know what an ultimate does or what a 9/11 is but when i looked at the clock it was VERY late this mornin and didnt have time to edit it, which im doin now to avoid pranksters, lol.

 

[bezerk]

Re: Nitrous as a turbo lag assitant...?

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there is a guy in europe that has a pt76 (or something that size) on a stock engine, and he is using nitrous to help spool the turbo, and it works

 

[blk00z28]

Re: Nitrous as a turbo lag assistant...?

What about a two step?

 

[HotRudyRod]

Re: Nitrous as a turbo lag assistant...?

Im going to use NOS new mini 2 stage progressive controller, it has a lot of cool features that are perfect to use with turbos. Here is a link of the product: http://www.holley.com/15974NOS.asp
Im a Holley distributor and want to promote nitrous sales here in Mexico so im goin to showcase some of the products with my truck and have some fun with all the gadjets.

 

[TurboJunk]

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yeah i saw that, but a 700 holding that kind of hp i dont see how.

Waller has a 700 in his personal truck..... its holding so far.

 

[cloneman315]

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2 step works real well

 

[kessler]

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Well i might be able to help on this one here. On Jims ( Parish ) Truck he has Nitrous but its only used for a 3rd of a second, It wired into the Mega Squirt so that when he Launches it will spray untill it sees 8lbs of boost then it shuts off. Although it is a 150 HP shot it works real good and it keeps he times pretty consistant. But with our trucks depending on how built your motor is there is no need to run it unless you want to use it as a Intake cooler. And that you can use Meth for.

 

[HotRudyRod]

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What exactly is a 2 step, 2 step retard like MSD's to get traction?
Thanks for the input Kessler, yes im also planning to just use a "down ramp" for a fraction of a second from 70-80% throttle to 100% and then shut it off. Im already running meth but was thinking that the second stage with a very small shot of nitrous could be used to burn all the extra meth the system is able to inject, specially at the topend and make some more power but in a progressive way instead of the sudden blow of straight nitrous.

 

[kessler]

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What exactly is a 2 step, 2 step retard like MSD's to get traction?
Thanks for the input Kessler, yes im also planning to just use a "down ramp" for a fraction of a second from 70-80% throttle to 100% and then shut it off. Im already running meth but was thinking that the second stage with a very small shot of nitrous could be used to burn all the extra meth the system is able to inject, specially at the topend and make some more power but in a progressive way instead of the sudden blow of straight nitrous.

What times are trying for? the reason i ask is by you adding Meth with Nitrous and depending on how much boost you plan on running you might start running into Lifting your heads with that much Cyl PSI. And i hope to god that you have something thats going to be helping with the timming. If not then id just stick with Spool up and use the meth for the rest or look into getting a better Intercooler.

 

[HotRudyRod]

Re: Nitrous as a turbo lag assistant...?

What times are trying for? the reason i ask is by you adding Meth with Nitrous and depending on how much boost you plan on running you might start running into Lifting your heads with that much Cyl PSI. And i hope to god that you have something thats going to be helping with the timming. If not then id just stick with Spool up and use the meth for the rest or look into getting a better Intercooler.

Dont have any ET goals right now, my truck is being painted and still got plenty of time to figure everything out with you guys' help.
Thats exactly one of the points where i need help, i want to know if could use meth to keep stock timing while still using small shots 20/25/30hp the most and the mild timing map the Ultimate provides. I've read of guys in N/A Corvettes runnin even agresive timing with meth injection and big shots (200/300hp).
I wanna keep the stock intercooler (i like a lot the location of it) and spray it with Co2, remember this is goin to be more of a display vehicule than a racetruck and the chill bar and LED purge systems are also for crowd pleasin porpouses.

 

[kessler]

Re: Nitrous as a turbo lag assistant...?

Just ditch the N20 plan there is no need for it if you have a good stall and Meth will cool the Intake charge more then you think. Unless you really want it then i guess get it but there are so many Sy/Ty guys here useing just meth and its working great for them. Im not planning on using N20 at all, I just dont see a real need for it on our trucks for the street only.

 

[HotRudyRod]

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Thanks Kessler, im already running 18lbs with agressive timing and meth injection on the street. Finally got a good self powered cable for the data master and will work on tunning it for more time and lbs but i also wanna try this other set up and wanna get my feet wet using it to spool up and progressive injection as we got tons of small turbo imports down here. I distribute and install nitrous systems and not many people know of spool up and progressive systems yet.

 

[turbodig]

Re: Nitrous as a turbo lag assistant...?

Hey, has anyone tried nitrous as a turbo lag assistant? Im planing to do that on my truck and i figure i wont have to LOAD my completly stock drive train as much as i am boost/braking it at launching, if it breaks who cares i just wanna try some else than the 1 2 3 here. Input wil be very apreeciated, thanks.

Here's a list of the mods i have, so you can point me out on to what else i would need to make it all work, thanks.
Stock motor, Waller TH700R4, 9/11 conv, 20G WG ported turbo, Ultimate chip, 2 stage "dry" progressive NOS nitrous systems, progressive AlkiControl, NOS Intercooler chillbar, Jabsco IC pump, 255 FP, GN billet FPR, Manual exahust cut out, MSD Coil and wires, ZEX sparkplugs, MSD knock sensor, Autometer F/A and Boost gauges, GTech PRO, Datamaster.

The preload on the drivetrain is a good thing... it'll break fewer parts than hitting a loose drivetrain with power.

With a 20g, and a decent converter, you don't need to help spoolup. I can spool much faster than the tires will allow on a 4-5 psi launch.

Dry spray on a chip that isn't set up to add fuel for it, even for a few seconds, will likely cause reliability issues.

My .02