Raced a GSXR xxxx CC

[Mtn Z]

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I think we need to see some time slips & videos of all these esay mid nine bikes,w/just a header dyno tune & makes 197 HP
Gadson raced Jason Britton on Prepped ZX14's & ran 9.4-9.8 IIRC
Longer swingarms air shifters,lowered etc.

Lets see some videos of a stock,unmodified GSXR1000,ZX10, run a mid 9.it does not happen & if it does,,,it's not easy & a typical street rider will not run 9's

Ricky Gadson was actually running 9.13ish at 149mph. I don't care who you are, that's haulin ass. We all do our very best to make sure our trucks are "prepped" as you put it. No reason to expect people who are drag racing bikes not to. Those ZX14s mods aren't extensive. It doesn't take away from the fact that the bikes are certainly capable of running 9s on a stock bike. My ZX-10R will rip off a 9 second pass without a doubt. That is with geometry setup for the track and a first gear good for over 100mph to keep the front wheel down. Yeah it takes a good rider to get it out of them because most riders out there are plain out unskilled, but it can be done. Credit where credit is due IMO.

 

[It's just a six]

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My friend who knows how to ride ,on his ZX10 ,one tooth lower front sprocket,aftermarket exhaust,no power commander & w/powercomander ran a best of 11.00 @ 134 @ LACR.
Best I have seen an 03 GSXR1000 ran 10.70,he really rode it hard & fast LACR 3000FT elevation.

I ran my friends Stock 04 GSXR 750 (first time ever on his bike) & ran 11.60 @ 125 MPH ,with more time I could bring it down,it just wanted to wheelie & that was only a 750. All @ 3400 FT altitude of that day. I know it's slow but I am being honest .
I am no expert rider, I am just saying a typical rider off the street is not going to click off some mid 9's on there bike that the magazines have them tested @ 9.6-9.7 range.


We have guys reading magazine times & just because they have the same bike,they say that is what there bikes run,IMO :2cents:

 

[sly dvl]

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Just for reference here's some time tags from the last time I ran my 1100XX. I'm #19:

 

[It's just a six]

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Just for reference here's some time tags from the last time I ran my 1100XX. I'm #19:

Thanks for posting.
What is the model is your bike & what times do the magazines have them run your bike @? 9.something seconds? Is that the Blackbird 1100?
That bike is easier to launch than a typical pure sportbike,correct? Longer wheelbase 58.66 inches

Curious of the other guys you raced? Bikes also? Models?

 

[sly dvl]

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My bike is an '01 Honda SuperBlackBird 1100XX - stock.
Richard was running a '00 Busa with a few mods - pipe & TRE, Ahren was running a 1985 FZ 750 (my old bike) and Jamie was running a '00 Blackbird 1100XX with a few mods - pipe & power commander.

Depending on what article you read they have the XX running high 9's to low 10's. Best time I ran was a 10.5 or 10.6 if I remember correctly. My buddy on the '00 XX was only able to beat me by a tenth (not shown) with his mods. With the exception of the FZ we are all experienced riders who can launch & ride pretty decent.

In my experience you can expect to run about 2-5 tenths slower then the published article times. I have yet to see a daily rider who runs exactly what the magazines claim.

 

[It's just a six]

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My bike is an '01 Honda SuperBlackBird 1100XX - stock.
Richard was running a '00 Busa with a few mods - pipe & TRE, Ahren was running a 1985 FZ 750 (my old bike) and Jamie was running a '00 Blackbird 1100XX with a few mods - pipe & power commander.

Depending on what article you read they have the XX running high 9's to low 10's. Best time I ran was a 10.5 or 10.6 if I remember correctly. My buddy on the '00 XX was only able to beat me by a tenth (not shown) with his mods. With the exception of the FZ we are all experienced riders who can launch & ride pretty decent.

In my experience you can expect to run about 2-5 tenths slower then the published article times. I have yet to see a daily rider who runs exactly what the magazines claim.

AMEN! Of course you will have guys saying you do not know how to ride,something is wrong w/your bikes & so on,but I appreciate you posting your timeslips,that is real world times,not some hyped up magazine times.
You friend on the Busa,that is a 9.7 1/4 mile bike or so why is he so slow? Just kidding,,,my friend ran his 02 Busa & ran 11.4 @ 124- 126 MPH,he also weighs 240 LBS,,, 3000 ft altitude track

 

[It's just a six]

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Nope, but plan on running it at Infineon this season. Track opens March 1st!

It's past March 1st,,, anytime soon you will run you bike? Please post your times & mods ,if any.
Thanks

 

[SeattleSy#1255]

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My friend who knows how to ride ,on his ZX10 ,one tooth lower front sprocket,aftermarket exhaust,no power commander & w/powercomander ran a best of 11.00 @ 134 @ LACR.
Best I have seen an 03 GSXR1000 ran 10.70,he really rode it hard & fast LACR 3000FT elevation.

I ran my friends Stock 04 GSXR 750 (first time ever on his bike) & ran 11.60 @ 125 MPH ,with more time I could bring it down,it just wanted to wheelie & that was only a 750. All @ 3400 FT altitude of that day. I know it's slow but I am being honest .
I am no expert rider, I am just saying a typical rider off the street is not going to click off some mid 9's on there bike that the magazines have them tested @ 9.6-9.7 range.


We have guys reading magazine times & just because they have the same bike,they say that is what there bikes run,IMO :2cents:

Hmm, sounds familar. Just like the guys with the 800HP cars that run 11's. I know of a guy with a TT vette 850+whp that ran a 11.1 at 134. Tell me there isn't something wrong?

actully, there isn't...it is the ability to drive. Just like a bike is the ability to ride. Any 850hp vette should run 10's all day long, and maybe 9's with traction and exception driver. A Busa is the same way, no different.

my only argument is that I don't understand why people compare a 800hp car that took 40K to build to a stock bike. You can turbo a Busa for 4-500hp as well. Lets compare apples to apples here.

stock for stock, bikes kill most cars and it takes a lot of money and power to match a stock bike...and we haven't even began to talk about modding a bike.

 

[sly dvl]

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You friend on the Busa,that is a 9.7 1/4 mile bike or so why is he so slow? Just kidding,,,my friend ran his 02 Busa & ran 11.4 @ 124- 126 MPH,he also weighs 240 LBS,,, 3000 ft altitude track

By the end of the day I think he had it down to low to mid 10's. He's about 190lbs I'm guessing. Slightly faster then our XX's.
By the end of the day I was doing 10.5's, Jamie on the other XX was doing 10.4's and Richard on the Busa was doing 10.2's - 10.3's.
Still quite off the "magazine" times.

 

[It's just a six]

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actully, there isn't...it is the ability to drive. Just like a bike is the ability to ride. Any 850hp vette should run 10's all day long, and maybe 9's with traction and exception driver. A Busa is the same way, no different.

stock for stock, bikes kill most cars and it takes a lot of money and power to match a stock bike...and we haven't even began to talk about modding a bike.

I have seen too many riders w/there 600's run in the 12's & 13's,because they do not know how to launch good.

The 04 GSXR I ran 11.6 @ 126 MPH,,,,the owner of that bike raced it also the same day & he rides a street bike for years & years,,,his first run 13.6 @ 117 MPH second run 13.1 @ 119
best he got down to was 12.80's @ 122

IIRC, the 04 GSXR ran mid 10's @ 134 Magazine posted.

I used to race w/the MMRA here in Cali,I raced my 1983 GS 550. It had a header,but all else was stock.
My best 12.2 @ 108,,best magazine time posted for that same bike 12.4 @ 104 it took a lot of seat time to run it faster than the magazine posted time.

My point it is much easier to run fast in a car than on a bike,,,on a bike you really need to have alot of technique & skill to get a stock unmodified ,unstrapped sportbike to run what the magazine times posted.Plus you need to be a lightweight rider,weight kills the bikes also.

I raced my 03 GSXR 1000 against my friends 03 GSXR w/a powercommander header ,made 165 HP @ the wheel, stock is 150 HP @ the wheel .
We raced from various rolls @ 30,45,60 75 MPH etc, I would walk away from him @ all speeds,he weighed 285 LBS quite a bit more than me.

 

[SeattleSy#1255]

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I have seen too many riders w/there 600's run in the 12's & 13's,because they do not know how to launch good.

The 04 GSXR I ran 11.6 @ 126 MPH,,,,the owner of that bike raced it also the same day & he rides a street bike for years & years,,,his first run 13.6 @ 117 MPH second run 13.1 @ 119
best he got down to was 12.80's @ 122

IIRC, the 04 GSXR ran mid 10's @ 134 Magazine posted.

I used to race w/the MMRA here in Cali,I raced my 1983 GS 550. It had a header,but all else was stock.
My best 12.2 @ 108,,best magazine time posted for that same bike 12.4 @ 104 it took a lot of seat time to run it faster than the magazine posted time.

My point it is much easier to run fast in a car than on a bike,,,on a bike you really need to have alot of technique & skill to get a stock unmodified ,unstrapped sportbike to run what the magazine times posted.Plus you need to be a lightweight rider,weight kills the bikes also.

I raced my 03 GSXR 1000 against my friends 03 GSXR w/a powercommander header ,made 165 HP @ the wheel, stock is 150 HP @ the wheel .
We raced from various rolls @ 30,45,60 75 MPH etc, I would walk away from him @ all speeds,he weighed 285 LBS quite a bit more than me.

Then we agree...it has everyhing to do with a rider on a bike and a driver in the car. Put a professional behind each and it will take a monster car to keep up with a litre bike.

My only point is really that...in order to beat a bike, you'll need lots'o money and prayer that the bike hasn't been built like the car has.

 

[It's just a six]

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My only point is really that...in order to beat a bike, you'll need lots'o money and prayer that the bike hasn't been built like the car has.

I disagree with this statement,,,you do not need a prayer most of the time from a typical streetbike rider with 600's,,,,they cannot run the numbers,,,,most of the time a typical street rider cannot launch hard to run the numbers.
Tytilidie has raced a few bikes & have beaten them up to a point & his truck runs 13's or so.
Like my friend running a 13.6 or so on his 04 GSXR 750 then he got done to 12.8,that's still slow.
You need to be a good,if not great rider to run consistant low ET's .
Liter bikes,can usually launch bad & pass any 11 or 12 second truck.
But if you have a 10 second car on the street, I will bet on the car over a stock sportbike & an average street rider everytime.

My truck runs low 12's & I have raced a GSXR 750 & 1000 from a light(at the same time),,,it took them almost an 1/8th mile to catch up & pass me because they did not know how to launch hard.

 

[SeattleSy#1255]

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I disagree with this statement,,,you do not need a prayer most of the time from a typical streetbike rider with 600's,,,,they cannot run the numbers,,,,most of the time a typical street rider cannot launch hard to run the numbers.
Tytilidie has raced a few bikes & have beaten them up to a point & his truck runs 13's or so.
Like my friend running a 13.6 or so on his 04 GSXR 750 then he got done to 12.8,that's still slow.
You need to be a good,if not great rider to run consistant low ET's .
Liter bikes,can usually launch bad & pass any 11 or 12 second truck.
But if you have a 10 second car on the street, I will bet on the car over a stock sportbike & an average street rider everytime.

My truck runs low 12's & I have raced a GSXR 750 & 1000 from a light(at the same time),,,it took them almost an 1/8th mile to catch up & pass me because they did not know how to launch hard.

..and i'd take you up on the bet

I guess we need to define a race. I mean you are talking a stop light to a stop light, i'll take a syty, but that isn't even 1/8 most the time. 1/8 can be close if the rider doesn't know how to ride and 1/4 makes it worse.

I can agree to disagree with you. I just don't think we are talking about the same type of race so we have different opinions. I also don't think it is fair to talk a good driver vs a bad rider.

Does't really matter...i love anything fast so bikes and sportscars; i love them all and can respect them all.

 

[Deanzsyclone]

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10.7 with a bike on the track is very different then running on the street. Probably 90% of the time the bike will be slower on the street. Biker gets to excited and uses the clutch incorrectly from stress, road maybe is to cold and tire slips, but our trucks are pretty consistent on the street, hard to screw up. Not that it hasn't been done by one or two tards here on the forum. Just my two cents.

 

[K5Cruz]

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10.7 with a bike on the track is very different then running on the street. Probably 90% of the time the bike will be slower on the street. Biker gets to excited and uses the clutch incorrectly from stress, road maybe is to cold and tire slips, but our trucks are pretty consistent on the street, hard to screw up. Not that it hasn't been done by one or two tards here on the forum. Just my two cents.

For me its the opposite. I'm calm and collected on the street, but at the track my reaction is terrible. I think I do a lot better on the street, but I do see where you are coming from.

 

[SeattleSy#1255]

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10.7 with a bike on the track is very different then running on the street. Probably 90% of the time the bike will be slower on the street. Biker gets to excited and uses the clutch incorrectly from stress, road maybe is to cold and tire slips, but our trucks are pretty consistent on the street, hard to screw up. Not that it hasn't been done by one or two tards here on the forum. Just my two cents.

makes sense, which is why I think we are talking about different kinds of races.

 

[Deanzsyclone]

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For me its the opposite. I'm calm and collected on the street, but at the track my reaction is terrible. I think I do a lot better on the street, but I do see where you are coming from.

cool and collected is helpfull but still does not over come the fact that the "conditions" are still better on a "prepped" track, than on a city paved street.
I enjoy running bikes with the sy when I know it will take place at our street races, and the conditions are on my side not his. Gets em every time.:tup: so far.. lol

 

[It's just a six]

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cool and collected is helpfull but still does not over come the fact that the "conditions" are still better on a "prepped" track, than on a city paved street.
I enjoy running bikes with the sy when I know it will take place at our street races, and the conditions are on my side not his. Gets em every time.:tup: so far.. lol

Tell it like it is,, Dean!
How many times has a bike wasted you out of the hole?
I do not think you are makeing 850+ HP @ the wheels ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, are you?

 

[TYTILIDIE]

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FWIW, I just raced another Hyabusa. We went from a dig and he got me at 65mph. I didn't get a very good launch though. I told him that at the next light and he told me it is really hard to launch the bike on the street.

 

[It's just a six]

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Way to go!
Now wait,,,, there is going to be guys saying the Hyabusa guy can't ride,something wrong w/the bike ,etc.
Good job! :tup: :tup: