Some Goodies for the Ty

[live1053rulz]

Some goodies for my truck have come in over the past week or so. Razor Alky, Phil Long 50# chip, 50# flow matched injectors, 3 bar map, and a B&M lockup TC control switch in need to install because a wire to a TC lock control switch burnt out and now my TC won't lock up (so I decided to throw this in). Still to come: RPM A2A and Ramchargers dual e-fans. Gonna have to figure out how to mount my actuator with RPM's A2A kit, anyone wanna show/ tell me how they did theirs w/ stock turbo? Thanks.

 

[mrweelr]

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Oh man, Christmas in January for you :tup: That's gonna be a lot of work, but the payoff will be worth it Let me know if you want to come over and compare trucks. I've got all that stuff on the Sy.

 

[SYO237]

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For the RPM kit, you'll need to reclock your turbo so the intake side is facing down towards the lower fan shroud. Easy to do, just remove the bolts on the backside of the intake side...you'll have to remove the boost solenoid and WG and remount those as well after your done reclocking.

The intake tube from the IC to the turbo inlet runs up right next to the lower fan shroud. Bad pics, but this is how it fits (polished tube on the left): http://www.sytyarchives.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=1430

And this is how the turbo gets reclocked (PTE52 turbo, but same deal for stocker, sorry about the coolant explosion)
http://www.sytyarchives.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=1391

The intake tube from the IC to the TB runs below the frame, then shoots up and over towards the TB. Pretty much self fitting.


Do alot of test fitting for the intake tube to turbo... mine sits pretty close to the radiator fan, so you'll have to be sure you have good clearance. Only problems I had was getting the correct position for mounting the IC. Again, do alot of test fitting... best to have someone helping so they can help hold stuff up while you check clearances.

I was actually working on making a custom CF scoop for mine tonight and taking pics of the fabrication, so I will have some pics up by tomorrow so you can get a bit more idea on how things look.

 

[live1053rulz]

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Awesome, I'm looking forward to putting this stuff on, but I know it'll be a ton of work. Thanks for the pics and suggestions SY0237, I'll be sure to do a bunch of test fitting and I'll look for your pics. Jeremy, I'd love to come compare trucks do get more of an idea of what I'm in for. I just washed my truck and put it in the garage, so if it's raining I might just come by in another car to keep this thing clean until I'm done working on it. What's your schedule like this weekend?

 

[MikeRenz]

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the stock turbo has a small metal nipple that needs to be shaved off in order to reclock

 

[SYO237]

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Heres the pics I took while mocking up my IC scoop, hopefully they are helpful.

You'll notice that the passenger side of the IC is slotted for the bolts. Again, fitment issues when we were mounting it. After drilling a few holes, it became easier just to slot the mount so we could side the IC back and forth and get the right clearance and fitting.

http://www.sytyarchives.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=4189

Also, heres a pic of the topside so you can see the pipe routing.

http://www.sytyarchives.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=4212


oooooooooo yeah.... best figure out a way to keep the IC piping on the TB. You can get the standard bar that mounts to the TB and connects to a bracket that can be welded onto the piping.

Since my piping is ceramachromed, I didnt want to weld anything on it, plus I think the support bar mod going across just looks ugly. I went a bit ghetto and laid a good thick bead of JB weld around the very edge of the TB lip that the silicon hose slides onto. Once the hose clamp is on, under boost it wont blow off. The only reason why I did use JB weld and not a permanent weld is because I know later on I can knock it off or sand it off and wasnt a fully permanent thing to the TB. (im funny about original parts like that)

 

[live1053rulz]

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Cooool, thanks guys. I'll keep you posed...

 

[mrweelr]

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Steven,

Given this $hitty weather, I'd prefer to postpone this. I have Monday off if you want to come over then? I actually have a pile of new parts like yours to install on the Z71...damn this weather! We could have your chip, injectors, and 3BAR installed in less than two hours. What kind of boost controller are you going to use?

Adam made some good points about the intercooler mounting and such. For my TB hose, I had a bead welded around the edge of the inlet. The rubber RPM hose was still backing off with only 15psi of boost, but I retightened it and now it won't blow off at 18psi. I think having the T bracket welded onto the upper pipe is the right way to go...I still need to do this. Oh yeah, I don't care for that black IC-to-TB transition hose that comes with the RPM kit; I'm going to replace it with a smooth hose if and when I can find one.

One thing you'll notice is the RPM intercoolers tend to be situated toward the driver's side after mounting. For aesthetic reasons, I decided I'd rather have mine mounted more toward the center. Here is a pic, for reference:

Still not perfect, but close enough for me. The only problem I ran into with moving the core toward the passenger side was the turbo outlet IC pipe would no longer line up with the core inlet. A 6" 45-degree silicon hose (cut to fit) solved that problem. I was planning on welding a scoop to that core, but haven't gotten around to it yet. Also, I recommend wrapping the IC piping to minimize heat soak:

Just wear face protection when working with the stuff. It's full of glass fibers and you don't want to be breathing that crap. Anyway, the RPM A2A rocks and you will love it. HTH.

 

[live1053rulz]

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I know, this weather is a bummer. I'll probably spend most of the day working on this lockup TC switch issue, Monday sometime should be fine. Boost controller... I guess I'll just continue to model my truck after yours unless you have any suggestions otherwise. You've got the Blitz, correct? Ya happy with that thing? I'm probably gonna want a BOV too right? unless you think I can have the stock stuff make due. Ohh, and your wrapped IC piping looks great, and I'm sure it works even better, if you've got enough left for mine that would be awesome.

 

[SYO237]

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Jeremy, have you got pics of moving the IC? Be interested in seeing how you did it. Being offcentered doesnt bother me to much, but if the option is there to move it, just might do that.

 

[mrweelr]

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No, no pics, but there's not much to it. Basically you can only move the core to the passenger-side so far before it starts hitting things. This will also move the IC-to-TB piping in that direction, so you may have to compensate by shifting things around, cutting your inner fender, etc.

 

[mrweelr]

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Steven -

The Blitz EBC is great, but expensive. I don't know if the Phil Long 50# chip has boost control built in, like the stock injector Ultimate does. If not, you may have to get a manual or electronic controller to work with the stock wastegate when you swap chips. If you plan on upgrading your turbo down the road, you may as well get a good EBC now anyway. I may have a BOV welded onto the RPM upper IC pipe at some point, although this is not high on the to-do list right now. I do have enough heat wrap left over to do your IC piping, no worries

 

[SYO237]

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you may have to compensate by shifting things around, cutting your inner fender, etc.

what inner fender? dumped that thing loooooooong ago

 

[93ty475]

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live1053rulz,

If you've already deleted your abs, I would see about mounting the alky resevoir on the driver's side if at all possible....I tried it both ways and have it on the driver's side now...night and day difference.....now the low sender works the way it should and there's no way to starve your pump of alky when you floor it....just a suggestion....

 

[live1053rulz]

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Ty475,
Thanks for the suggestion. I haven't yet deleted my ABS, but I'll look into it. Doesn't the alky resevoir go on the drivers side anyways, right where the air box used to be? I'm assuming you're refering to where the ABS stuff is, is this better than next to the radiator or are you retaining your stock airbox?

 

[93ty475]

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Ty475,
Thanks for the suggestion. I haven't yet deleted my ABS, but I'll look into it. Doesn't the alky resevoir go on the drivers side anyways, right where the air box used to be? I'm assuming you're refering to where the ABS stuff is, is this better than next to the radiator or are you retaining your stock airbox?

If you look at the above engine bay pic, you'll see the "alkycontrol" label on the black reservoir cap....The alky reservoir replaces the factory coolant reservoir.....Then you add the universal one that's supplied....I tried my alky kit mounted that way and it sucked....air, that is :lol: ....the supplied alky reservoir dispenses the alky to the front of the truck...That is just asking for trouble in my opinion....also, you need to keep your alky tank over 3/4 full to prevent the low alky sender from turning on when you floor it....If you delete your abs, you may be able to put the alky resevoir on the driver's side which is what I did....You may have to get somewhat crafty, but you'll be proud of yourself when you're done man...I promise.....Get someone that has it on the normal passenger side to give you a ride/boost launch with a half full or less alky tank...keep your eye on the low sender led and you'll see what I mean...It's very annoying which is why I reinstalled it and did this the "right" way.....let me know if you need pics...my engine bay is not near stock so I don't know exactly what it would take to do this on a stockish truck, but I know you or anyone can do this if you mess around with it enough...

 

[live1053rulz]

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Ahhh, things make more sense now. I was wondering why they gave me a new resevoir and why it had wires that go along with it. Pics of that would be awesome just to get some perspective on things. That does seem like a big job (but so does just the alky kit in itself).

 

[93ty475]

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Well I don't have any good pics now but below is a crappy phone pic that's already uploaded...If you need more pics, just holler....I mounted my alky tank way back because I didn't have a wiper fluid reservoir in my way...If you look closely, you can see the alky pump on the driver's side inner fender....That's about where the pump needs to be for this to work with the supplied braided hoses in the Razor's kit....I could have scooted the reservoir forward but I wanted it to be higher up to hide a bunch of cables and wires under it....The only thing you really have to watch out for is that the reservoir mounts low enough that the hood doesn't contact the reservoir cap when you close it....

 

[live1053rulz]

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Cool, that pic is just fine. I see how you did it. Also, I have to make sure the pump is mounted lower than anything else, right? Does is matter if it's on it's side or is it okay to be upright?

 

[93ty475]

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Cool, that pic is just fine. I see how you did it. Also, I have to make sure the pump is mounted lower than anything else, right? Does is matter if it's on it's side or is it okay to be upright?

Yes, the pump has to be lower than the tank....Which is why I mounted my pump that way...I made sure that the part of the pump that does the pumping is lower than the reservoir....Another option might be to leave the reservoir in the stock location then plug the original reservoir feed and invent a feed on the rear of the reservoir....Too much of a risk of ruining the reservoir and you're stuck with the same old malfunctioning low sender....