Tire shops and SyTys

gstacky

Member
Re: Tire shops and SyTys

ive never seen a balencer other than a road force balncer match balence tires

I have heard of balancers that will do this. I have also heard of patch weights, where you run the tire on the balancer, it tells you how much weight and where it goes, then you dismount the tire, put the weight on the inside of the tire like a tire patch, then remount the tire. Sounds like a HUGE PITA!!!

Back to the original post, we change tires every day, from everything from 1930's Ford's to modern huge wheels. All I can say is that your guy probably just didn't care, a problem when going to the big name brand stores. I suggest maybe going to a family owned/private store, they may care just a little bit more for your property. I have seen rims damaged by touch-less machines, it has nothing to do with the machine, and everything to do with the guy running it.

Hopefully you have better luck next time.
 

GEMELLI

The Best of Both Worlds
Re: Tire shops and SyTys

Funniest moment in my career in the USSA was when my then boss queries my spelling and looked me straight in the eye and said "around here we write in English".

:roll:

:D

That's funny! Things like this are why I'll probably never work for someone else again. I would have laughed in his face and walked out! Ignorant asshole!
 
Re: Tire shops and SyTys

Match mounting is where the balancer tells you which tires should go on which rims. Road force balancing is where the tire and wheel have a large drum pressed against them to simulate having a load on them. More accurate way to balance.

Where I work we use a plastic head as well, since we deal with BMWs, Porsches, Mercedes, and other expensive stuff. Sticky weights are also a must on those rims, and SyTy rims as well if you don't want scratches and corrosion from hammer on weights.

It's always a fun experience buying directional tires for SyTys as well. :roll:

Our GSP9700 is just a little different than that. It does tire matching, where it finds the low spot in the wheel and the heavy spot on the tire and matches those up. You mark the tire, mark the rim, then dismount the tire. Line up the marks on tire and rim and reset the bead. Normally it will bring your road force measurement within specs when rebalanced and road force meausrement rechecked. All that Road Force does is measure the amount of force put out by the tire as a response to the amount of force put into the tire by the drum. The specs are lower for P-tires than LT-tires.
 

kmack

Donating Member
Re: Tire shops and SyTys

I've learned to take nothing for granted, unfortunately most people
could care less if their rims get scratched up a bit.
You need to warn the tire shop that you expect your wheels to come
out the way they went in or they will pay for repairs

I got lucky and have a tire machine in my shop at home.
I do all my mounting and most time balancing isn't necessary.:lol:
 

Damian

Member
Re: Tire shops and SyTys

I had them do tape on weights on the inside by the spokes and pound on weights on the inside lip. I don't get any vibrations at all.
 

spooldup

Super Member
Re: Tire shops and SyTys

I cant stand people who don't respect other's property!!! Taking pride in your work seems to be a lost art! Maybe you can pick up your own machines and do your own tires?? The rim clamp and balancer machines are a ton of money but if you look hard enough you can find machines which are somewhat neglected as I did. I picked up these machines for my garage. Both items needed work and their respective owners could not be bothered learning about them or repairing them and purchased new machines. I had to heat and bend the bead blasting ring back in place on the hunter rim clamp machine as well as repair the blown seals in the plus device pneumatic arm. Gave it a thorough greasing and she is as good as new. The accuturn balancer just needed to be calibrated after I cleaned the optical encoder. I bought the rim clamp for $400 and the accuturn balancer for $50 and it came with all the basic adapters plus an optional accuturn truck cone kit. They are not the best machines but enough for the rims and tires I own and at least I am not stuck with the careless guy down the street.



 
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Damian

Member
Re: Tire shops and SyTys

That's an older balancer but still works great. When I worked at DTC, I preferred that one over the new fancy one we had.

Jealous that you have those at your house!
 

Typhoon #1848

Donating Member
Re: Tire shops and SyTys

Funniest moment in my career in the USSA was when my then boss queries my spelling and looked me straight in the eye and said "around here we write in English".

:roll:

:D

Too funny. I grew up in London but when I moved here to the States I had an employer ask me (in English) what language we spoke "Over there". heh

Back on topic though... I'm always surprised by the antics I see at tire shops / auto part stores. Does no one take pride in their work anymore? All work is noble.
 
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