houstonhomer
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Does anyone have a good estimation what syclones and typhoons are going to be worth in like 10-15 years? Or when they will start to drastically increase in value?
When syclones are antiques.........
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Foot Performance
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Re: When syclones are antiques.........
you know i do not want to sound harsh but i think they are at there peak and maybe even on the down hill slide i mean you look at them and the are wanted buy poor mid to late twenty year olds and they are also going to get harder and harder to find good parts for
dont mean to bust any bubble but i still think the people like us are just a dieng bread
just wait in 20 years the muscle cars will be in the same bowl
you know i do not want to sound harsh but i think they are at there peak and maybe even on the down hill slide i mean you look at them and the are wanted buy poor mid to late twenty year olds and they are also going to get harder and harder to find good parts for
dont mean to bust any bubble but i still think the people like us are just a dieng bread
just wait in 20 years the muscle cars will be in the same bowl
jjorgensen52
NHSTE - I'm the only one!
Re: When syclones are antiques.........
I sure hope they aren't at their peak right now.... the prices suck at the moment
fot_performance said:
I sure hope they aren't at their peak right now.... the prices suck at the moment
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I would say 6-7 years ago they were at there peak, since then I think they have gone down a good deal. Hopefully in 10-15 years they will be worth a lot more, but just like any other model only the stock trucks will be the ones worth the big $$
Nick
I would say 6-7 years ago they were at there peak, since then I think they have gone down a good deal. Hopefully in 10-15 years they will be worth a lot more, but just like any other model only the stock trucks will be the ones worth the big $$
Nick
T-Bone
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Re: When syclones are antiques.........
If you are banking on making a sizeable profit off a vehicle, I suggest you look elsewhere. All the low mileage Sy/Ty's (<5,000 miles) are taken and RARELY come up for sale. They still pull real good money but the fact is these trucks run on gasoline (and require lots of it) and with current oil resevoirs dwindling, in 10-15 years, these trucks will probably be yard ornaments and not worth scrap metal prices. My recommendation is for you to buy horses or bicycles.....that is where the $$$ will be is 15 years. With that bleak forecast, if anyone wants to sell a cherry ty right now (Aspen Blue or White/White and NO roofrack), contact me. I want one to accompany my Sy.
houstonhomer said:
If you are banking on making a sizeable profit off a vehicle, I suggest you look elsewhere. All the low mileage Sy/Ty's (<5,000 miles) are taken and RARELY come up for sale. They still pull real good money but the fact is these trucks run on gasoline (and require lots of it) and with current oil resevoirs dwindling, in 10-15 years, these trucks will probably be yard ornaments and not worth scrap metal prices. My recommendation is for you to buy horses or bicycles.....that is where the $$$ will be is 15 years. With that bleak forecast, if anyone wants to sell a cherry ty right now (Aspen Blue or White/White and NO roofrack), contact me. I want one to accompany my Sy.
dgoodhue
BuSTeD 4.3
Re: When syclones are antiques.........
I have no idea on values, it really depends on the value cars in general. So everything is relative. I think they will do better than average and start to gain some momentum in 5-10 years.
What you said above will help values. I honestly don't know of that many hard to finds parts, almost none are impossible though some are semi- expensive. The fact some parts are expensive means that their is interest in the vehicles.
I large core group the owner that own these trucks are in the late 20's, early 30's. We were 16-21 (or dreaming about driving) when these trucks came out. When we hit our midlife crissis at 40+, you will the prices increase. Our truck have a lot of good thing going for them in terms of collectibility, The first really quick truck and a long period of dominance among truck, even among sports cars of the time. The biggest negative is the reliability
I have owned my truck for over 5 years and the values really haven't go down. I think the low mileage stock truck have gone up and the higher mileage vehicles have gone down. The NADA value hasn't moved. When the price go up, the low mileage one will be the first one to gain.
Muscle car will eventual go down relation to other cars, but its going to take awhile. The early antique lost value when their owners got old & died. The baby boomers are going to have to start dying off before the Muscle Cars take a significant dip relative to the rest of the market.
fot_performance said:
I have no idea on values, it really depends on the value cars in general. So everything is relative. I think they will do better than average and start to gain some momentum in 5-10 years.
What you said above will help values. I honestly don't know of that many hard to finds parts, almost none are impossible though some are semi- expensive. The fact some parts are expensive means that their is interest in the vehicles.
I large core group the owner that own these trucks are in the late 20's, early 30's. We were 16-21 (or dreaming about driving) when these trucks came out. When we hit our midlife crissis at 40+, you will the prices increase. Our truck have a lot of good thing going for them in terms of collectibility, The first really quick truck and a long period of dominance among truck, even among sports cars of the time. The biggest negative is the reliability
fot_performance said:
I have owned my truck for over 5 years and the values really haven't go down. I think the low mileage stock truck have gone up and the higher mileage vehicles have gone down. The NADA value hasn't moved. When the price go up, the low mileage one will be the first one to gain.
Muscle car will eventual go down relation to other cars, but its going to take awhile. The early antique lost value when their owners got old & died. The baby boomers are going to have to start dying off before the Muscle Cars take a significant dip relative to the rest of the market.
alwayscode390
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Re: When syclones are antiques.........
Muscle cars will NEVER go down, they just get rarer and rarer, JUST like these trucks. I see parted out Sy's and Ty's on Ebay all the time , guess what....that is ONE LESS SYTY.
As far as parts being HARD to find, that is a GOOD thing. If you have a complete truck ... it will be holding value as it is SUPER rare. We are in good hands being these are LIMITED edition vehicles for 1 yr ( sy's ) !!! ---
Muscle cars will NEVER go down, they just get rarer and rarer, JUST like these trucks. I see parted out Sy's and Ty's on Ebay all the time , guess what....that is ONE LESS SYTY.
As far as parts being HARD to find, that is a GOOD thing. If you have a complete truck ... it will be holding value as it is SUPER rare. We are in good hands being these are LIMITED edition vehicles for 1 yr ( sy's ) !!! ---
Norm
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There seems to be a cycle with vehicles. Most people think that because something sold for a million dollars on barrett-jackson that vehicles are on a upswing. A daily driver will never be worth as much as a low mileage hardly driven vehicle. Muscle cars peaked 10-15 years ago and then went down hill, they have bounced back big time. Street rods are pretty popular,mostly because of Foose and Coddington( from t.v). A 1928 Model a restored is worth alot less than a street rodded version. While sy/ty's are a unique vehicle they don't appeal to the masses. While limited in production there's nobody out there making repo peices, if you owned a 55-57 chev you could make a complete car from repop stuff. So it's pretty hard to say that a sy/ty will ever be worth 100k. But if somebody has one for sale at auction and a couple people really want it anythings possible. Just my .02 cents
There seems to be a cycle with vehicles. Most people think that because something sold for a million dollars on barrett-jackson that vehicles are on a upswing. A daily driver will never be worth as much as a low mileage hardly driven vehicle. Muscle cars peaked 10-15 years ago and then went down hill, they have bounced back big time. Street rods are pretty popular,mostly because of Foose and Coddington( from t.v). A 1928 Model a restored is worth alot less than a street rodded version. While sy/ty's are a unique vehicle they don't appeal to the masses. While limited in production there's nobody out there making repo peices, if you owned a 55-57 chev you could make a complete car from repop stuff. So it's pretty hard to say that a sy/ty will ever be worth 100k. But if somebody has one for sale at auction and a couple people really want it anythings possible. Just my .02 cents
jjorgensen52
NHSTE - I'm the only one!
Re: When syclones are antiques.........
Depends on what you've got. I had a lot of miles, so I went restomod because I wanted to enjoy it (personally, I could never bring myself to buy an investment car, I'd want to drive it). In the 2 months I've actually been able to drive the truck I put 1400 miles on it....I'm shooting for the highest mileage SyTy :lol:MrNurse said:
warmpancakes
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People have been saying the "boom" is over for 30 years The common level cars have stabilized but the rarer cars are cointinuing to climb. It has alot to do with the people who remember the cars I was in High school/college when the sys and tys came out and am know to a point in my carrer where I have the income to get a toy. I have alot of younger people looking for toy cars now the market for these truck will go up. when and how far i have no idea. The $$$$ trucks will be the low milage perfect ones or the stock late build trucks
fot_performance said:
People have been saying the "boom" is over for 30 years The common level cars have stabilized but the rarer cars are cointinuing to climb. It has alot to do with the people who remember the cars I was in High school/college when the sys and tys came out and am know to a point in my carrer where I have the income to get a toy. I have alot of younger people looking for toy cars now the market for these truck will go up. when and how far i have no idea. The $$$$ trucks will be the low milage perfect ones or the stock late build trucks
Baythan
SY2TY2SY2TY
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I wonder if the SyTy bounce is so difficult because of original pricing? 26k for Syclones and 28+k for Typhoons..that was a lot of money at the time. In contrast, Grand Nationals offered similar performance just 4 years earlier for 17,500! Despite the production numbers (over 20,000 in 1987), GN value never dipped too far below original price. And when the hit the magic "15 year" mark, prices started to climb.
How do you climb out of a hole and back up to 26k for a truck that to GM, wasn't good enough to produce for more than one year? Hard to do. Look at the 1990 ZR1 and 1989 TTA's. Same situation (burdened further by plain-Jane design). Plus, the clunky, inherent problems with SyTys are well known...if you buy one you had better know somebody who knows these trucks...GMC mechanics are not a reliable source. Most people who collect cars don't wanna work that hard for an investment. They don't always want to search for or be a part of a network.
That being said, I think they will go up some day, but it's not an investment for me so it doesn't matter. Still, as with GN's, I think stock is the way to go if you think you're gonna get out of it someday.
I wonder if the SyTy bounce is so difficult because of original pricing? 26k for Syclones and 28+k for Typhoons..that was a lot of money at the time. In contrast, Grand Nationals offered similar performance just 4 years earlier for 17,500! Despite the production numbers (over 20,000 in 1987), GN value never dipped too far below original price. And when the hit the magic "15 year" mark, prices started to climb.
How do you climb out of a hole and back up to 26k for a truck that to GM, wasn't good enough to produce for more than one year? Hard to do. Look at the 1990 ZR1 and 1989 TTA's. Same situation (burdened further by plain-Jane design). Plus, the clunky, inherent problems with SyTys are well known...if you buy one you had better know somebody who knows these trucks...GMC mechanics are not a reliable source. Most people who collect cars don't wanna work that hard for an investment. They don't always want to search for or be a part of a network.
That being said, I think they will go up some day, but it's not an investment for me so it doesn't matter. Still, as with GN's, I think stock is the way to go if you think you're gonna get out of it someday.
Foot Performance
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Re: When syclones are antiques.........
if you have a truck that needs parts it could be down forever if you cant find them and that will just keep growing as age takes its tole on these trucks the reason muscle cars are still alive is becuase of the after market demand there are only 3000 syclone so if you make a part for them the most you are ever going to sell is 3000 the demand is not there
alwayscode390 said:
if you have a truck that needs parts it could be down forever if you cant find them and that will just keep growing as age takes its tole on these trucks the reason muscle cars are still alive is becuase of the after market demand there are only 3000 syclone so if you make a part for them the most you are ever going to sell is 3000 the demand is not there
warmpancakes
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Re: When syclones are antiques.........
There is no aftermarket support for E body chryslers till within the last year but they still sell for big bucks. The only parts you cant get for these trucks is a vin plate every other p[art can be found if you know where to look
fot_performance said:
There is no aftermarket support for E body chryslers till within the last year but they still sell for big bucks. The only parts you cant get for these trucks is a vin plate every other p[art can be found if you know where to look
gjp
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I hope in 20 years my truck is worth nothing. I hope to drive it into the ground by then. I bought a high mile Sy so I can drive it. I feel they will go up in price. Not much but I can see a 10k mile SY or ty selling for $40-50k in 15 years.
I hope in 20 years my truck is worth nothing. I hope to drive it into the ground by then. I bought a high mile Sy so I can drive it. I feel they will go up in price. Not much but I can see a 10k mile SY or ty selling for $40-50k in 15 years.
$Hot-Rod$
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Re: When syclones are antiques.........
I bought my Ty for investment and to drive it. Not all syty's are lemons as many seem to say. These trucks are not that hard to work on if you know what you are doing. As for investors, serious ones do expect that some items may be harder to find. That's part of the enjoyment of doing it yourself. I've had no problem finding whatever I need for my truck and see no reason why everyone else should have the same"luck". I think some people have just had alot of bad luck and are just blowing smoke up people's azz. (Excuse my french.) :rant:
I bought my Ty for investment and to drive it. Not all syty's are lemons as many seem to say. These trucks are not that hard to work on if you know what you are doing. As for investors, serious ones do expect that some items may be harder to find. That's part of the enjoyment of doing it yourself. I've had no problem finding whatever I need for my truck and see no reason why everyone else should have the same"luck". I think some people have just had alot of bad luck and are just blowing smoke up people's azz. (Excuse my french.) :rant:
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can you name any $30k or less vehicle sold in the early 90s that is worth more than 15k w/ moderate miles? I think you guys are just tunnel-visioned by the low production numbers. Many thousand alive still isn't that great $wise. I personally like to see them show up in the jyards, becuase thats one closer to being rare. :lol:
Since we go through so many cars so much quicker these days, and manuf's are producing 10+ thousand vehicles...i really don't think there will be an explosion in car values the way the old muscle cars have gone nuts in the last 10 yrs.
We're all just speculating anyway. I can see the vehicles being worth $20k or $30k even....but i personally don't expect them to start pulling in $80+k. Even the marlboros (which face it, only real syty fans really appreciate - or marlboro car collectors) don't pull in that much $. $50-75k tops for a 10 ever production. I think that guides how our market values will fair for a little while.
can you name any $30k or less vehicle sold in the early 90s that is worth more than 15k w/ moderate miles? I think you guys are just tunnel-visioned by the low production numbers. Many thousand alive still isn't that great $wise. I personally like to see them show up in the jyards, becuase thats one closer to being rare. :lol:
Since we go through so many cars so much quicker these days, and manuf's are producing 10+ thousand vehicles...i really don't think there will be an explosion in car values the way the old muscle cars have gone nuts in the last 10 yrs.
We're all just speculating anyway. I can see the vehicles being worth $20k or $30k even....but i personally don't expect them to start pulling in $80+k. Even the marlboros (which face it, only real syty fans really appreciate - or marlboro car collectors) don't pull in that much $. $50-75k tops for a 10 ever production. I think that guides how our market values will fair for a little while.
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well, i agree with an above post, my truck has had its problems mostly when i first got it and i think that was due to the lack of upkeep for the truck. after fixing the little tib bit things after i got it all i have encountered was what you would expect for a 100k+ miles vehicle. i think i should have bought a ty though, after installing my sub box i lost a few notches and i am kinda sitting close to the steering wheel. and i dont drive much other that to and from work because i cant fit more than me and one passenger. other than that i enjoy driving it, i have encountered another problem with my steering but i want to just patch it now and make it last until i tear apart for the rebuild. i think i will stick with my opiginal plan and do some upgrades, 4l80, coilovers front and rear, bigger brakes front and rear, clean up the engine compartment, some performance upgrades,and repaint to orginal color. i am optimistic in planning for 2 years for the rebuild. and i really do plan on being burried in the truck.......well maybe not but i do plan on keeping for a pretty long time.
well, i agree with an above post, my truck has had its problems mostly when i first got it and i think that was due to the lack of upkeep for the truck. after fixing the little tib bit things after i got it all i have encountered was what you would expect for a 100k+ miles vehicle. i think i should have bought a ty though, after installing my sub box i lost a few notches and i am kinda sitting close to the steering wheel. and i dont drive much other that to and from work because i cant fit more than me and one passenger. other than that i enjoy driving it, i have encountered another problem with my steering but i want to just patch it now and make it last until i tear apart for the rebuild. i think i will stick with my opiginal plan and do some upgrades, 4l80, coilovers front and rear, bigger brakes front and rear, clean up the engine compartment, some performance upgrades,and repaint to orginal color. i am optimistic in planning for 2 years for the rebuild. and i really do plan on being burried in the truck.......well maybe not but i do plan on keeping for a pretty long time.
JB's Red Ty
Still Green
Re: When syclones are antiques.........
Quick aside..I was going to buy a new syclone back at the end of 91 for 19,500...brand new. They were giving them away at the end... Bought my 93 Blue/Gray Ty for 27,500 2 years later instead
Baythan said:
Quick aside..I was going to buy a new syclone back at the end of 91 for 19,500...brand new. They were giving them away at the end... Bought my 93 Blue/Gray Ty for 27,500 2 years later instead