Re: Engine Questions Once Again >.>
Alright, I now see your engine problems/future build based off your turbo search thread. Let me help out a little.
Most seem to state the start price is $2500 and it goes up to anything from there...
Doesn't help me much >.> Why should I spend $3000 over $2500... I don't see any difference and no one will explain themselves....
A lot of people on this forum seem to be fine doing 1/4 at 12 seconds with stock engines...
It seems a stock engine will work fine for my needs
But would it be better just to have a new engine built for $2500 vs the $1900 for the used one
A lot of people just seem to try and upsell me to a $3500 engine.... When I don't even state the mods I am looking to get.
The reason the prices start at $2500 is due to the cost of the parts in the motor. I assume you got this price from a vendor, and not just a junk yard on a basic 4.3 motor? Because I dont think you can buy a short block from one of the vendors on here with a decent set of internals for under $3k...
If you want a stock truck motor, find someone who's selling a
complete motor. If you want to get any performance out of your truck rebuild your current motor. That is unless the block is totally screwed up. Which you'll be able to find a good used block for about $250-$500.
Take it from me, sy#2716, and all the other guys in this thread and on this board at exactly how much a typ engine rebuild with good parts can cost you. Just the pistons, rings, rods, crank(if yours is good, it'll be almost the same polishing it or cutting it to buy a new one), bearings, gaskets, and very little head work to the stock heads will run you close to $2k right there. Dont believe me, here's a break down;
Pistons - $499
Rings - $200
Rods - $499
Crank - $250/500(work done to a stocker, or a new one from RPM)
Head work(seals, valves, springs, retainers.. - $250
Machine shop cost - $500
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$2200 or $2400.
And thats just a basic rebuild with good parts. You get a new larger turbo, injectors to match, fuel pump, fpr, a tune(or you'll blow it up) and if your really wanting to go all out. A set of L35's or Vortec heads. You can get stockers unported for about $125. Then you'll have to get the lower intake welded to fit them, that'll run you about $250. Now your looking at a basic, simple rebuild of around $4500. Not to mention if your truck needs other work. Like.. a tranny. Or if the front or rear dif's need a rebuild. Or you have electrical issues, or the harness was hacked from the first owner.
So you see its not as simple as stating you want to know if a stock motor will be good for mid 12's. A
well taken care of stock motor will hit 12's. Or even possibly 11's like a few have. But if your starting with used parts that you have no idea how the other owner treated them. You can take that $2400 amount, and double if not triple it when you end up breaking it. Because all the good parts you went cheap on and didn't feel like spending the money, just coust you double by not doing it right the first time.
You can think I'm an ass for stating this, thats fune. I'm just telling you like it is. Now you can possibly reclaim some money spend by selling your stock parts if they are in good condition. But you might only end up getting $500 of your money back. But thats better then nothing.
Good luck. And do some more research. You don't sound like you know to much about cars in general. But nows the time to learn before you're forced to by choice.
