My budget LQ4/4L80E build! update, way over budget, 9's or bust!
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George Blake
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In this picture
It looks like your front case bushing is sitting on the input shaft. If it is, that shouldn't be loose enough to fit like that. If it was just laying there for mockup, ignore me. If it just kinda fell out of the front case half, you need a new bushing and loctite it in with red.
How are you doing that work so fast?
Just cleaning the inside of the case out takes longer than everything you did today.
Re: My budget LQ4/4L80E build!
In this picture
It looks like your front case bushing is sitting on the input shaft. If it is, that shouldn't be loose enough to fit like that. If it was just laying there for mockup, ignore me. If it just kinda fell out of the front case half, you need a new bushing and loctite it in with red.
How are you doing that work so fast?
Just cleaning the inside of the case out takes longer than everything you did today.
eviltwin
"junkyard syclone"
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just for mockup:tup:
i do most of the work by myself so there are not any distractions. I also havent had any real setbacks.
JuStBlAzIN
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I am following your build. I cant wait till you get to the manifolds or headers part. Thats what is setting me back right now.
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I am following your build. I cant wait till you get to the manifolds or headers part. Thats what is setting me back right now.
Syclone0565
CustomMulticades.com
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wait till you drop in the motor and hook up the trans....
:rant:
Re: My budget LQ4/4L80E build!
wait till you drop in the motor and hook up the trans....:rant:
eviltwin
"junkyard syclone"
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im really looking forwards to that.
the rest of the oil pan will get welded tomorrow and the trans will be finished tomorrow.
crappy iphone pic with my shaky hands
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:rant:
im really looking forwards to that.
the rest of the oil pan will get welded tomorrow and the trans will be finished tomorrow.
crappy iphone pic with my shaky hands
eviltwin
"junkyard syclone"
Re: My budget LQ4/4L80E build!
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got alittle done today. motor, trans, t-case all in. making motor mounts right now
ready to go in
testing without tranny
with tranny and t-case bolted in
steering clearance with stock manifold upside down. might work with a new shaft and some grinding
Re: My budget LQ4/4L80E build!
got alittle done today. motor, trans, t-case all in. making motor mounts right now
ready to go in
testing without tranny
with tranny and t-case bolted in
steering clearance with stock manifold upside down. might work with a new shaft and some grinding
AWDcameoLSX
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Being that close to the rag joint on the steering shaft i would get that ceramic coated personally. Looks great and keeps the heat in pretty well.:tup:
BTW I am jealous of the nice weather it looks like you got as i was outside trying to pull things from my parts truck covered in snow :tdown:
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Being that close to the rag joint on the steering shaft i would get that ceramic coated personally. Looks great and keeps the heat in pretty well.:tup:
BTW I am jealous of the nice weather it looks like you got as i was outside trying to pull things from my parts truck covered in snow :tdown:
eviltwin
"junkyard syclone"
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made the motor mounts. i just have to weld them together. i placed everything based on the stock truck manifolds fitting. the motor is alittle farther forward than it normally would and alittle higher. about 1/4" clearance with the steering and heater box thing.
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made the motor mounts. i just have to weld them together. i placed everything based on the stock truck manifolds fitting. the motor is alittle farther forward than it normally would and alittle higher. about 1/4" clearance with the steering and heater box thing.
George Blake
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Manual shift shaft is too long. It won't clear the prop shaft. See it stick WAY out of the trans? You need the sonnax short manual shaft. Probably would've been best to have installed that during the shift kit install. The pin that retains that shaft is protect by the separator plate so it doesn't fall out. Your going too fast and missing detail stuff. Once you get it in, you can either pull the valvebody(probably take you too long for the rate your working), you'll could also cut the corner off of the separator plate but with the triple plate design, that's gonna be tough.
Your also gonna need to trim the aluminum ears off of the trans so it clears the floor pans and your downpipe on the driver's side(if your going turbo).
Look at the back TOSS sensor. You have no reluctor wheel in there to get the output shaft speed to feed to the controller. You'll have to pull the signal off of the wiring of the transfer case. The reluctor wheel on the output shaft of the transfer case has 40 teeth on it. Same number of teeth that is on the reluctor ring in the transmission. Even though it's smaller in diameter, you'll get the same signal. Slow down a bit so it goes together easier.
You will also need to take a look at the rear lube hole on that trans. You've got a late model so the rear lube line is special and goes way up into the center support. Jeremy sent me a good email with the pic of what I'm talking about in it. You'll need the sonnax rear lube relocation kit or modify the stock rear lube fitting to mate to whatever kind of lines your running. If you just screw a fitting onto the side of the trans without the projection going into the center support, you'll get about 300 miles out of the trans and then physically melt the gear train.
I'm trying to think of as much stuff as I can. Your moving fast and that's commendable, but it doesn't mean anything if it won't go in or burns up.
I think Waller sells a steering shaft made for better clearance. Give him a PM and see if he still has them.
One last thing to think about. Your using the stock 65 pound torque converter on your budget build. The street converters weigh 28 to 35 pounds. Just something to think about. Think of your engine trying to spin your transfer case. That should be enough to put it into perspective. You know how you hear all over the internet that the 80e just robs tons of power? It's not the 80e. It's the stock torque converter.
If you go hydroboost, you won't have any clearance issues at the manifold and the brake booster.
Again, your doing an amazing job. If the rest of us could do the welding and stuff that you are doing, we'd all have our trucks torn apart....that may be a bad thing though....
Re: My budget LQ4/4L80E build!
Manual shift shaft is too long. It won't clear the prop shaft. See it stick WAY out of the trans? You need the sonnax short manual shaft. Probably would've been best to have installed that during the shift kit install. The pin that retains that shaft is protect by the separator plate so it doesn't fall out. Your going too fast and missing detail stuff. Once you get it in, you can either pull the valvebody(probably take you too long for the rate your working), you'll could also cut the corner off of the separator plate but with the triple plate design, that's gonna be tough.
Your also gonna need to trim the aluminum ears off of the trans so it clears the floor pans and your downpipe on the driver's side(if your going turbo).
Look at the back TOSS sensor. You have no reluctor wheel in there to get the output shaft speed to feed to the controller. You'll have to pull the signal off of the wiring of the transfer case. The reluctor wheel on the output shaft of the transfer case has 40 teeth on it. Same number of teeth that is on the reluctor ring in the transmission. Even though it's smaller in diameter, you'll get the same signal. Slow down a bit so it goes together easier.
You will also need to take a look at the rear lube hole on that trans. You've got a late model so the rear lube line is special and goes way up into the center support. Jeremy sent me a good email with the pic of what I'm talking about in it. You'll need the sonnax rear lube relocation kit or modify the stock rear lube fitting to mate to whatever kind of lines your running. If you just screw a fitting onto the side of the trans without the projection going into the center support, you'll get about 300 miles out of the trans and then physically melt the gear train.
I'm trying to think of as much stuff as I can. Your moving fast and that's commendable, but it doesn't mean anything if it won't go in or burns up.
I think Waller sells a steering shaft made for better clearance. Give him a PM and see if he still has them.
One last thing to think about. Your using the stock 65 pound torque converter on your budget build. The street converters weigh 28 to 35 pounds. Just something to think about. Think of your engine trying to spin your transfer case. That should be enough to put it into perspective. You know how you hear all over the internet that the 80e just robs tons of power? It's not the 80e. It's the stock torque converter.
If you go hydroboost, you won't have any clearance issues at the manifold and the brake booster.
Again, your doing an amazing job. If the rest of us could do the welding and stuff that you are doing, we'd all have our trucks torn apart....that may be a bad thing though....
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eviltwin
"junkyard syclone"
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I am going to cut and modify the stock shifter rod to clear prop shaft. I planned on running a after market tc but my bank account won't allow that right now. I planned on running the speed signal from the t-case from the beginning so im ok there. I forgot about the rear lube fitting. thanks for reminding me. With the steering shaft the biggest problem is where it connecters to the stock steering column. i just need to grind down the numbers cast into the manifolds where it is hitting. I dont have any clearance problems with the floor either because of how far forward i have the engine. I allows me to run the manifolds be its going to be a bitch to find a radiator and fans that are going to kit and cool properly. I am going to cut the ears off of the trans to fit the down pipe. Propbably just hit it with my recipricating saw. I plan on running hydro boost so i am ok on the brake booster clearance. I really appreciate all the help. I know I would forget something otherwise. I order my tc78 turbo, jgs 40mm wastegate, and a jgs 56mm bov today. they might be here by the end of the week. I still need to order my exhaust tubing stuff. Once i start getting the turbo mocked up i will put the front end together and start on the coolong system. I am going to bring out the bender and notcher today after school and start making a tranny crossmember. I think after all of this i will want to go to coilovers up front to get rid of the huge crossmember back there. I dont know yet.
Re: My budget LQ4/4L80E build!
I am going to cut and modify the stock shifter rod to clear prop shaft. I planned on running a after market tc but my bank account won't allow that right now. I planned on running the speed signal from the t-case from the beginning so im ok there. I forgot about the rear lube fitting. thanks for reminding me. With the steering shaft the biggest problem is where it connecters to the stock steering column. i just need to grind down the numbers cast into the manifolds where it is hitting. I dont have any clearance problems with the floor either because of how far forward i have the engine. I allows me to run the manifolds be its going to be a bitch to find a radiator and fans that are going to kit and cool properly. I am going to cut the ears off of the trans to fit the down pipe. Propbably just hit it with my recipricating saw. I plan on running hydro boost so i am ok on the brake booster clearance. I really appreciate all the help. I know I would forget something otherwise. I order my tc78 turbo, jgs 40mm wastegate, and a jgs 56mm bov today. they might be here by the end of the week. I still need to order my exhaust tubing stuff. Once i start getting the turbo mocked up i will put the front end together and start on the coolong system. I am going to bring out the bender and notcher today after school and start making a tranny crossmember. I think after all of this i will want to go to coilovers up front to get rid of the huge crossmember back there. I dont know yet.
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eviltwin
"junkyard syclone"
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they would have a hard time supporting the turbo and i would have to get them coated whick would cost more money. I am going to run the manifolds and if i end up not liking them or having a problem with them i will make headers and make new motor mount to lower and push back the engine. Ill just see how this all works and go from there. At the end a guess its only money:lol:
Re: My budget LQ4/4L80E build!
they would have a hard time supporting the turbo and i would have to get them coated whick would cost more money. I am going to run the manifolds and if i end up not liking them or having a problem with them i will make headers and make new motor mount to lower and push back the engine. Ill just see how this all works and go from there. At the end a guess its only money:lol:
eviltwin
"junkyard syclone"
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i havent figured those out yet. i will have very little room because my engine is father forward. Ill mess with that when the time comes.
did work on the tranny crossmember today but i did just about finish the wiring harness
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i havent figured those out yet. i will have very little room because my engine is father forward. Ill mess with that when the time comes.
did work on the tranny crossmember today but i did just about finish the wiring harness
George Blake
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It'll make it a lot easier if you get rid of the big crossmember and do one yourself. If you can make the transmission crossmember, you can make the frame stiffener back there.
Re: My budget LQ4/4L80E build!
It'll make it a lot easier if you get rid of the big crossmember and do one yourself. If you can make the transmission crossmember, you can make the frame stiffener back there.