should BMFB be a big gun??
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qbnkiller
Conflaguration Specialist
Re: should BMFB be a big gun??
Funny business as in people voting multiple times (multiple screen names) is what I was referring to. I think Morgan referred to that in an earlier post.
Funny business as in people voting multiple times (multiple screen names) is what I was referring to. I think Morgan referred to that in an earlier post.
BMFB
Not to scale
Re: should BMFB be a big gun??
I'm suprised as to how this has escilated.
I've gotten phone calls, txts, and been approached in person by more than 1 person over this matter.
If anything I've been very suprised at the positive words. I got one of these sent to me;
"It’s the same truck, and it’s another example of politics on the board. There’s so much innovation in that truck, things no one’s ever done before; and its all directly relatable and beneficial to the syty community. No one else on that board is ever trying to do what is being done in that thread, everyone is either spending big money on pre-built motors or going LS and those guys get credit for it when all they did was break out their check books. That build is one less than 10 builds that started off with high hopes, got it done, and did what it set out to and didn't end in a for-sale thread. Even with the guys who put alot of research in, spending countless hours on the dyno and the 'best money can buy' part your right there with them, or even faster (135 trap is amazing btw), using way less cash and from what I can tell, garbage. On top of all of that you tell people what you are doing, how it works, and how they can do the same thing. Its things like that build that attracts people to a site and keeps it alive, no one wants to read another thread about a 4.3 with a 412 cam that doesn't ever go anywhere or some secret project where no one knows anything other than its quick. The title, it's just a form of recognition for being a competent syty'er, and if they want to argue over a vin plate when it comes to performance and the benefit to the community that this project and member brings then it’s their loss"
and no, i'm not taking anything personal, there is no reason to.
I'm suprised as to how this has escilated.
I've gotten phone calls, txts, and been approached in person by more than 1 person over this matter.
If anything I've been very suprised at the positive words. I got one of these sent to me;
"It’s the same truck, and it’s another example of politics on the board. There’s so much innovation in that truck, things no one’s ever done before; and its all directly relatable and beneficial to the syty community. No one else on that board is ever trying to do what is being done in that thread, everyone is either spending big money on pre-built motors or going LS and those guys get credit for it when all they did was break out their check books. That build is one less than 10 builds that started off with high hopes, got it done, and did what it set out to and didn't end in a for-sale thread. Even with the guys who put alot of research in, spending countless hours on the dyno and the 'best money can buy' part your right there with them, or even faster (135 trap is amazing btw), using way less cash and from what I can tell, garbage. On top of all of that you tell people what you are doing, how it works, and how they can do the same thing. Its things like that build that attracts people to a site and keeps it alive, no one wants to read another thread about a 4.3 with a 412 cam that doesn't ever go anywhere or some secret project where no one knows anything other than its quick. The title, it's just a form of recognition for being a competent syty'er, and if they want to argue over a vin plate when it comes to performance and the benefit to the community that this project and member brings then it’s their loss"
and no, i'm not taking anything personal, there is no reason to.
Gnocide
turbo game burt reynolds
Re: should BMFB be a big gun??
it is
but we have syty with Chevy/Pontiac/Cadillac motors in it -some not even awd
so how different is it again?
the rules changed for those guys
take the conversions back to gmc or any dealer let them tell you how different it now is.
it is
but we have syty with Chevy/Pontiac/Cadillac motors in it -some not even awd
so how different is it again?
the rules changed for those guys
take the conversions back to gmc or any dealer let them tell you how different it now is.
Timbo
SyTy Stalker
Re: should BMFB be a big gun??
Then it's settled. Only 100% stock SyTys running 10.99 or quicker can be "Big Guns".
Then it's settled. Only 100% stock SyTys running 10.99 or quicker can be "Big Guns".
Timbo
SyTy Stalker
Re: should BMFB be a big gun??
Yes. My point is that you have to draw a line somewhere, and I don't think everyone will ever agree on what mods make a SyTy something else. That's why I think it's the VIN that counts. I don't personally think V8 or RWD conversions are interesting or particularly relevant to the trucks that most of us have here either, but if they did the conversion to a SyTy, it counts for the sake of consistent rules.
T-Bone
Active member
Re: should BMFB be a big gun??
Agree. Insurance companies draw the line there (put a 3 cylinder Metro engine in a ZR1 Vette and call for an insurance quote...see if it makes a difference). KBB and NADA draw the line there. Metchum Auction, Barrett Auction and others draw the line there.
They don't care if you have the exhaust exiting under the truck, out of the hood, through the bed and stacked behind the rear glass. They don't care if you are running 4 doughnut spares or 4 CCW's.....they care about 1 thing and one only......THE VIN !!
Agree. Insurance companies draw the line there (put a 3 cylinder Metro engine in a ZR1 Vette and call for an insurance quote...see if it makes a difference). KBB and NADA draw the line there. Metchum Auction, Barrett Auction and others draw the line there.
They don't care if you have the exhaust exiting under the truck, out of the hood, through the bed and stacked behind the rear glass. They don't care if you are running 4 doughnut spares or 4 CCW's.....they care about 1 thing and one only......THE VIN !!
MRKING
New Parts for Old Trucks
Re: should BMFB be a big gun??
It is rather disingenuous to assert that all of the current Big guns merely cut a check to reach their goals . I know it was posted as received email or PM but I can't see how someone would truly feel that way . Plenty over the years have busted their asses and worked through countless builds to fine tune a combo that performs on that level . I respect anyone that can make it happen , regardless of vehicle and combo .
If money is all that was needed , there would be twice as many Big Guns on here .
It is rather disingenuous to assert that all of the current Big guns merely cut a check to reach their goals . I know it was posted as received email or PM but I can't see how someone would truly feel that way . Plenty over the years have busted their asses and worked through countless builds to fine tune a combo that performs on that level . I respect anyone that can make it happen , regardless of vehicle and combo .
If money is all that was needed , there would be twice as many Big Guns on here .
Captain Morgan
Moderated User
Re: should BMFB be a big gun??
Im going to keep this short since im on my phone.
1. If there are shenanigans in the votes, Im going to think they have gone for both sides.
2. I dont want to see who voted because that might open another can of worms.
3. This topic is as divided as the presidential election. Our country is divided, why not our forum. :lol:
4. There will not be another poll, I think we all know how the big guns feel as they have already posted. If they want to make a poll they can do so in thier own forum.
The poll will be closed in about 5 hours, so we'll see what happens then.
Im going to keep this short since im on my phone.
1. If there are shenanigans in the votes, Im going to think they have gone for both sides.
2. I dont want to see who voted because that might open another can of worms.
3. This topic is as divided as the presidential election. Our country is divided, why not our forum. :lol:
4. There will not be another poll, I think we all know how the big guns feel as they have already posted. If they want to make a poll they can do so in thier own forum.
The poll will be closed in about 5 hours, so we'll see what happens then.
DanenGraham
Big in the rear
I feel as if the "big gun" label is just saying good job. And has little to do with the merits on what individual people call a real syty.
This was a vote to let one member be on the Big gun list. That is all, not a quest for what makes a syty a syty.
Simple vote, yes or no.
I voted yes. And I'm with Jimmy, they are all a bunch of old POS trucks that only we love anyway. And his hauls ass, and he is an active member of the group.
This was a vote to let one member be on the Big gun list. That is all, not a quest for what makes a syty a syty.
Simple vote, yes or no.
I voted yes. And I'm with Jimmy, they are all a bunch of old POS trucks that only we love anyway. And his hauls ass, and he is an active member of the group.
Norm
Donating Member
Re: should BMFB be a big gun??
O.K. before this closes 'll post this up. I'm not a big gun as my Ty hasn't been to the track .........yet. I think it might run the number to make it but don't really care and if I didn't I would go bust my knuckles on it some more to get there. The vin is still a ty and as T-Bone said that is all that matters to the insurance company. His isn't and yes I find it immpressive that BMFB's truck runs a 10. He should have dropped the powerplant into the ty and then there woulddn't be this debate. Although it is nice to see how much action it brings to this tight community of sy/ty owners.
O.K. before this closes 'll post this up. I'm not a big gun as my Ty hasn't been to the track .........yet. I think it might run the number to make it but don't really care and if I didn't I would go bust my knuckles on it some more to get there. The vin is still a ty and as T-Bone said that is all that matters to the insurance company. His isn't and yes I find it immpressive that BMFB's truck runs a 10. He should have dropped the powerplant into the ty and then there woulddn't be this debate. Although it is nice to see how much action it brings to this tight community of sy/ty owners.
Aeroking
e.i.
Re: should BMFB be a big gun??
if you say LS swap, i am never answering another phone call.
if you say LS swap, i am never answering another phone call.
Re: should BMFB be a big gun??
What's an "obfuscation"? Does it make my truck go any faster, and if so, where do I buy one? Is this a bolt on item! Man...., I wish my Syclone got off its jack stands, was faster, better liked by the girls....! I love this truck.
What's an "obfuscation"? Does it make my truck go any faster, and if so, where do I buy one? Is this a bolt on item! Man...., I wish my Syclone got off its jack stands, was faster, better liked by the girls....! I love this truck.
T-Bone
Active member
Re: should BMFB be a big gun??
I think it is the end resut of 104+ octane boost, hydrocodone pills and steroids mixed 50:1. Must work rather well but expensive.
On a more serious note, it was nice to see a semi-sane debate fostered by the great Captain. We are a strange mix of personnel on this forum, all with a passion for a blast from the past and if nothing else, mature enough I hope to agree to disagree. In the end, the majority rules so let's move on and direct our focus now on Nats 13. Gonna be a great event :tup:
I think it is the end resut of 104+ octane boost, hydrocodone pills and steroids mixed 50:1. Must work rather well but expensive.
On a more serious note, it was nice to see a semi-sane debate fostered by the great Captain. We are a strange mix of personnel on this forum, all with a passion for a blast from the past and if nothing else, mature enough I hope to agree to disagree. In the end, the majority rules so let's move on and direct our focus now on Nats 13. Gonna be a great event :tup:
REVEREND HARMON
Party in a box!
Re: should BMFB be a big gun??
I went 9.80 on my motorcycle!! Where is my big gun dangit!!
In all seriousness, The Big Gun moniker was established to provide incentive for people to make there syty's go faster and be rewarded by the board and be recognized in some way.
I myself have been trying for awhile building my own syclone trying to reach this milestone with the help of many great friends on this board. Without all the great people and info here about syty's and how to make the stock block faster we might not be hitting the milestones that have been accomplished so far.....and I can guarantee that we are only going to get faster and better with what these limited edition trucks where born with....
We are all born human....that don't mean i piss in the woman's bathroom.
I went 9.80 on my motorcycle!! Where is my big gun dangit!!
In all seriousness, The Big Gun moniker was established to provide incentive for people to make there syty's go faster and be rewarded by the board and be recognized in some way.
I myself have been trying for awhile building my own syclone trying to reach this milestone with the help of many great friends on this board. Without all the great people and info here about syty's and how to make the stock block faster we might not be hitting the milestones that have been accomplished so far.....and I can guarantee that we are only going to get faster and better with what these limited edition trucks where born with....
We are all born human....that don't mean i piss in the woman's bathroom.
sytyguy
Moderated User
Re: should BMFB be a big gun??
Obfuscation is being willfully ambiguous. Alex's usage of it isn't entirely appropriate as I'm not sure anyone is trying to intentionally confuse the group, but yeah, you get his drift. Obfuscation is common among doctors, lawyers, computer technicians, etc... to confuse someone else with misleading or cryptic jargon so as to impress, conceal information, or befuddle.
Aeroking
e.i.
Re: should BMFB be a big gun??
i tried reading this aloud and bit my tongue twice. :tdown:
i tried reading this aloud and bit my tongue twice. :tdown:
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