Z51 front and possibly rear install info....
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Black Knight
I Glow Therefore I am
Re: Z51 front and possibly rear install info....
Holy cobb webb Batman, truck must be a normal SyTy and not see much pavement time. :lol:
Looks real good though! :tup:
Holy cobb webb Batman, truck must be a normal SyTy and not see much pavement time. :lol:
Looks real good though! :tup:
4C FED
Absolutum Dominium
Re: Z51 front and possibly rear install info....
LMAO, yep it's been sitting in the garage for about a year since its last road trip.
The other day I was working under the hood when I saw a cob web that look like a Black Widow web. I though to myself that I should get a broom & sweep it away. I got busy in the moment & forgot about the web until my hand brushed against it & I actually felt the sticky web. It made me jump. So I grabbed the broom & swept the mo-fo away. Well I nice big Widow fell to the floor which I proceeded to smash the snot out of.
Which reminds me, tomorrow I need to set a bug bomb off underneath of the truck.:tup:
Black Knight said:
LMAO, yep it's been sitting in the garage for about a year since its last road trip.
The other day I was working under the hood when I saw a cob web that look like a Black Widow web. I though to myself that I should get a broom & sweep it away. I got busy in the moment & forgot about the web until my hand brushed against it & I actually felt the sticky web. It made me jump. So I grabbed the broom & swept the mo-fo away. Well I nice big Widow fell to the floor which I proceeded to smash the snot out of.
Which reminds me, tomorrow I need to set a bug bomb off underneath of the truck.:tup:
Black Knight
I Glow Therefore I am
Re: Z51 front and possibly rear install info....
:rotf: Sounds like soumething I would've done.
That's crazy you live in Galt, I lived in Elk Grove for 2 years and never saw that you lived there. I would've called you up to check out the truck, oh well
4C FED said:
:rotf: Sounds like soumething I would've done.
That's crazy you live in Galt, I lived in Elk Grove for 2 years and never saw that you lived there. I would've called you up to check out the truck, oh well
ashman
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Re: Z51 front and possibly rear install info....
that damn UPS man just keep leaving cool things at the door.
i've got a BUNCH of parts that may NOT fit :roll:
i'm still waiting for TT350 (cbrperformance) to produce some C5 adapters. it'll be a couple of weeks before installation occurs but, it will ALL be documented!
that damn UPS man just keep leaving cool things at the door.
i've got a BUNCH of parts that may NOT fit :roll:
i'm still waiting for TT350 (cbrperformance) to produce some C5 adapters. it'll be a couple of weeks before installation occurs but, it will ALL be documented!
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Black Knight
I Glow Therefore I am
Re: Z51 front and possibly rear install info....
Is it me or are the calipers differrent colors?
Is it me or are the calipers differrent colors?
HotRudyRod
New member
Re: Z51 front and possibly rear install info....
Hi, im gettin my CBR C5 kit tomorrow and since the Z06 are way too much for my 17in wheels i want to get the Z51s. At a Vette forum someone told me that the Z51s are a tight fit in the 17in ZR1s but they do fit (mine arent ZR1s but are 8.5x17in), so now im wondering if the calipers for the Z51 rotors are the same as most C5 C6 calipers or are there any variants i cant notice?
Are the Z06 red calipers they sell in e bay any different from the regular grey or black C6 and C5s? Tryin to save some money here.
Thanks.
Hi, im gettin my CBR C5 kit tomorrow and since the Z06 are way too much for my 17in wheels i want to get the Z51s. At a Vette forum someone told me that the Z51s are a tight fit in the 17in ZR1s but they do fit (mine arent ZR1s but are 8.5x17in), so now im wondering if the calipers for the Z51 rotors are the same as most C5 C6 calipers or are there any variants i cant notice?
Are the Z06 red calipers they sell in e bay any different from the regular grey or black C6 and C5s? Tryin to save some money here.
Thanks.
HotRudyRod
New member
Re: Z51 front and possibly rear install info....
Thanks Ashman, that should save me considerable ammount over the red Z06s or the Z51s the guy thats sellin me the rotors is offerin me.
Thanks Ashman, that should save me considerable ammount over the red Z06s or the Z51s the guy thats sellin me the rotors is offerin me.
'JustDreamin'
Dream: 6LV8 Turbo Bravada
Re: Z51 front and possibly rear install info....
The C5,C5 ZO6, C6 (std), and C6 Z51 calipers are basically identical as you figured out. Red paint and some changes in the script are really the differences.
The C6 Z51 does us a different abutment bracket (thing that mounts the caliper and holds the pads) with an offset to clear the bigger Z51 rotor. You'll need those (instead of std C5 or C6 stuff) if you're going to run the Z51 rotors. Other than that the rest of the hardware (brake pads, guide pins, bolts, etc) should be the same.
You should check your peticular wheels out, especially since it'll be close. Check out Kore3's website, they've got templates for all of the various C5 & C6 brake packages (even for C5 calipers on the 14" C6 ZO6 rotors), and see if it'll fit your wheels before you spend $$$ on parts.
'JustDreamin'
Hey HotRod....HotRudyRod said:
The C5,C5 ZO6, C6 (std), and C6 Z51 calipers are basically identical as you figured out. Red paint and some changes in the script are really the differences.
The C6 Z51 does us a different abutment bracket (thing that mounts the caliper and holds the pads) with an offset to clear the bigger Z51 rotor. You'll need those (instead of std C5 or C6 stuff) if you're going to run the Z51 rotors. Other than that the rest of the hardware (brake pads, guide pins, bolts, etc) should be the same.
You should check your peticular wheels out, especially since it'll be close. Check out Kore3's website, they've got templates for all of the various C5 & C6 brake packages (even for C5 calipers on the 14" C6 ZO6 rotors), and see if it'll fit your wheels before you spend $$$ on parts.
'JustDreamin'
HotRudyRod
New member
Re: Z51 front and possibly rear install info....
Thanks for the advise, looks like im gonna have to check my wheel's inside diameter and see whats best for me. Apreeciate it.
Thanks for the advise, looks like im gonna have to check my wheel's inside diameter and see whats best for me. Apreeciate it.
ChevelleDude71
Lo Boost
Re: Z51 front and possibly rear install info....
Any Update on how these sexy brakes are turning out?...the pun was intended.... :rotf:
Any Update on how these sexy brakes are turning out?...the pun was intended.... :rotf:
allwheeldriven
New member
Re: Z51 front and possibly rear install info....
This thread has been dead way too long
I'd like to ask a few questions so I can go ahead an get the parts I need and give this a shot.
What is going on in this picture of 4C FED's install and why does it need to be done?
Is there a spacer involved someplace?
Does anyone have a picture of an unmodified flange so we can get an idea of what's been done here?
It looks like centering the caliper on the rotor won't be a problem if you machine down the mounting surface of the mounting bracket.
so far the parts list of what it looks like I need looks like this
ls1 backing plates #10444625, 10444626
z51 Rear Brake Caliper Brackets #88964167
red single pot c5 rear calipers #88895130, 88895131 (I read someplace that the newer black front calipers are stronger but, is there any different besides color for the rear brakes?)
Z51 size Rotors (http://www.racingbrake.com/Z51_REAR_05_08_p/2069-311.htm)
brake pads
HotRodV6 E-brake cable http://www.s-seriesforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79778
adjustable brake proportioning valve (what size are the brake lines going in to the stock unit?)
what else do I need to know?
what else would I need to complete this set-up?
my front brake kit just arrived today !:tup:
I must get ...brakes......in my truck..now..
This thread has been dead way too long
I'd like to ask a few questions so I can go ahead an get the parts I need and give this a shot.
What is going on in this picture of 4C FED's install and why does it need to be done?
Is there a spacer involved someplace?
Does anyone have a picture of an unmodified flange so we can get an idea of what's been done here?
It looks like centering the caliper on the rotor won't be a problem if you machine down the mounting surface of the mounting bracket.
so far the parts list of what it looks like I need looks like this
ls1 backing plates #10444625, 10444626
z51 Rear Brake Caliper Brackets #88964167
red single pot c5 rear calipers #88895130, 88895131 (I read someplace that the newer black front calipers are stronger but, is there any different besides color for the rear brakes?)
Z51 size Rotors (http://www.racingbrake.com/Z51_REAR_05_08_p/2069-311.htm)
brake pads
HotRodV6 E-brake cable http://www.s-seriesforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79778
adjustable brake proportioning valve (what size are the brake lines going in to the stock unit?)
what else do I need to know?
what else would I need to complete this set-up?
my front brake kit just arrived today !:tup:
I must get ...brakes......in my truck..now..
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4C FED
Absolutum Dominium
Re: Z51 front and possibly rear install info....
See my comments in BOLD.
See my comments in BOLD.
allwheeldriven said:This thread has been dead way too long
I'd like to ask a few questions so I can go ahead an get the parts I need and give this a shot.
What is going on in this picture of 4C FED's install and why does it need to be done?
You have to angle cut the flange so that it will fit & sit flat with the backing plate.
And since this is a Sy rear end, you need to drill an extra hole.
Is there a spacer involved someplace?
No spacer. Just showing that the axle flanges are turned down to ensure that they sit flat inside the rotor.
Does anyone have a picture of an unmodified flange so we can get an idea of what's been done here?
The flange has been turned down to 5.9". I think it was somewhere around 6.1" prior to turning it down. The original/stock diameter of the flange prevents it from sitting flat in the recess of the rotor. This in turn causes the rotor to wobble.
It looks like centering the caliper on the rotor won't be a problem if you machine down the mounting surface of the mounting bracket.
They are already centered without machining. That photo shows that the machined surface of the caliper abutment sits on the un-machined surface of the backing plate. If needed you could machine that surface (left red arrow) relative to the axle housing mounting surface.
Once the Sy is running, I'm going to run mine for awhile and then check for even pad wear to see if it's actually needed.
so far the parts list of what it looks like I need looks like this
ls1 backing plates #10444625, 10444626
z51 Rear Brake Caliper Brackets #88964167
red single pot c5 rear calipers #88895130, 88895131 (I read someplace that the newer black front calipers are stronger but, is there any different besides color for the rear brakes?)
Z51 size Rotors (http://www.racingbrake.com/Z51_REAR_05_08_p/2069-311.htm)
brake pads
HotRodV6 E-brake cable http://www.s-seriesforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79778
adjustable brake proportioning valve (what size are the brake lines going in to the stock unit?)
what else do I need to know?
what else would I need to complete this set-up?
my front brake kit just arrived today !:tup:
I must get ...brakes......in my truck..now..